As the Vikings wait to see if quarterback Brett Favre will end his retirement and play for them this coming season, the greatest quarterback in franchise history lashed out at Favre’s handling of the situation.
Hall of Famer Fran Tarkenton, appearing on 790 The Zone in Atlanta, said “it’s all about” Favre when discussing the subject and also had some interesting comments about NFL owners in general. Tarkenton, a resident of the Atlanta area, didn’t need any encouragement to go after Favre and was especially critical of how the future Hall of Fame QB has treated the Packers after playing 16 seasons in Green Bay.
“I think it’s despicable. What he put the Packers through last year was not good,” said Tarkenton, who played for the Vikings from 1961-66 and again from 1972-78. ”Here’s an organization that was loyal to him for 17, 18 years, provided stability of organization, provided players. It just wasn’t about Brett Favre. In this day and time, we have glorified the Brett Favre’s of the world so much, they think it’s about them. He goes to New York and bombs. He’s 39 years old. How would you like Ray Nitschke in his last year [playing for] the Vikings, or I retire, and go play for the Packers? I kind of hope it happens, so he can fail.”
Tarkenton might have been a little strong in his assessment of Favre’s play with the New York Jets last season. The Jets, who acquired Favre’s rights from the Packers during training camp, were 8-3 at one point but finished by losing four of their last five games and missed the playoffs. Favre retired for a second time after the season in part because of a partially torn biceps in his throwing arm that continues to bother him.
It’s interesting that Tarkenton feels so strongly about how Favre dealt with the Packers because when the Vikings traded Tarkenton to the New York Giants after the 1966 season he wasn’t on exactly good terms with the franchise. Clearly he sees this as a completely different situation.
“He told the Packers [after 2008 that], ‘I’m retiring,’” Tarkenton said. “They’ve got to move on. They’ve got to go through their offseason plan, their workouts, they go with the other quarterback [Aaron Rodgers], who is a good player, and then [Favre] comes back and says, ‘I think I want to play.’ … You build your team in the offseason. Everybody knows that. It’s about team. It’s not about Brett Favre. So he goes and runs up to the Jets, doesn’t even dress in the locker room with the players. Has a separate facility. Playing quarterback is about the relationships you have with your coaches, with your players, with your trainers, with your managers. How can you do that if you show up on gameday and you haven’t put the time in. And now he’s trying to do it again in Minnesota. And if Minnesota bites, God bless them.”
Asked what more the Packers could have done last year, Tarkenton said: “They did everything, but you get into a position, and I understand he’s been glorified so much. He’s been a great player, there’s no question about it, but it’s all about him. It is supposed to be all about your team. If you’re going to be the quarterback of your team, you need to be there in the offseason workouts in March and April. Peyton Manning’s there. Tom Brady’s there.”
Tarkenton was known for his scrambling when he played the game and Favre always has been considered a gunslinger.
“I think he has been a great flamboyant quarterback, but he has made more stupid plays than any great quarterback that I’ve ever seen,” Tarkenton said. “Look at his final game in a Packers uniform [the NFC title game in the 2007 season]. He blew that game against the Giants. He’s playing against Eli Manning, I love Eli Manning, but he’s still not a great quarterback. He’s not Peyton yet, or Tom Brady. He’s just a guy. And [the Packers] are playing at home, and they’re in a tight situation, they went to overtime and [Favre] throws the interception that allows [the Giants] to come back and win the game.
” … He has done that and driven his coaches crazy all of his career. But it’s team, is it not? I know [one of the hosts] is talking about, ‘I’d give him a shot,’ I think it would be terrible. [The Vikings are] trying to put together a team all spring. They’ve been there, they’ve been bonding, they’ve getting together. He hasn’t met the team, he hasn’t been there bonding, he hasn’t been part of that organization.”
Tarkenton went on to say that the role of the quarterback, “is to make your teammates better,” and “if you make your teammates better you’re [going] to have a chance to win.”
“Your whole focus is on making your teammates better,” he said. “When you step in that huddle they’ve got to want to play. … You work with each one of them in the week. I coached the running backs, the linemen, the wide receivers, I took them to dinner, I bonded with them. I had no other life but them. That was my life. In the offseason, training camp, that was my life. I bonded with them. Ahmad Rashad today, he’s one of my best friends. That makes it happen for you.
“What Brett Favre had going for him and what Tom Brady has going for him and what Peyton Manning has going for him, is that they came into an organization that was stable. Great general managers, great ownership, great coaching. You need that to be a quarterback. Brett Favre should be grateful to Green Bay. Stable, all-time great organization and he just treated them horribly last year and now he wants to get revenge. Isn’t that fun? What is this about?”
One of the hosts pointed out that Tarkenton knows Zygi Wilf and wondered why he didn’t give the Vikings owner a call to discuss the subject. ”No,” Tarkenton said. “The people that own these teams, they don’t ask anybody’s opinion except some of the junkies that are inside the league that are going to try to manipulate them anyway. They don’t go and ask somebody else that maybe has a little knowledge of it because that would be deprecating to them because they are guys that either they made millions or their daddy’s made millions and they own these teams now and, ‘I’ve got to be smarter than everybody else in the world. I bring all my kids and all my friends into the locker room.’ My owners never went in the locker room.”
Tarkenton never directly named Wilf or any other member of the Vikings ownership group when he made the above comment but the Vikings do have members of ownership in the locker room after games. Tarkenton did meet Wilf in October 2005 when the Vikings played in Atlanta.
Asked what would have happened if the Vikings ownership group had tried to bring friends and family into the locker room when Bud Grant was the coach, Tarkenton said: “He wouldn’t have them in the locker room. He kicked out Frank Gifford and Howard Cosell. Our owners didn’t come in the locker room and they shouldn’t come in the locker room. You’re going to war.”
Here is a link to the Tarkenton audio if you want to listen.
Update: Also want to give credit to www.sportsradiointerviews.com for providing the heads up on this interview.
Woo hoo!!!
I agree with Fran. The more I think about the situation, the less I want anything to do with Favre. I don’t think he is good for this team at all. I feel better with Sagitarvius Rosenackson under center than a premadonna Favre that only really wants to play 2 games a year.
Yeah Fran! The voice of reason from someone who has been there, done that. I hope the Vikings are listening, but I doubt it.
Amen Tark! Finally, somebody with NFL ties had the guts to tell the truth about this jerk, favre.
Right on Tark! And another thing, only 29% of the people polled want Favre to play for the Vikings!
So THAT settles it ! ! !
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It’s funny how many of you people comment on how you don’t want Favre, but three weeks ago the state of Minnesota was all gung hoe about the idea. I agree last year Favre was very disrespectful towards the Packers, but all the attention he is getting this year is purely speculative by the media. Hes not pulling a Terrell Owens and sitting at the microphone changing his mind every other day. If the guy wants to play, then let him play. But,if he doesn’t don’t be complaining about Childress when Jackson or Rosenfels can’t comprehend his offense enough to run it. Go Vikings!!
Yup, this guy right here just jumped ship to the anti-Favre wagon. Very well put Fran. GO TJACK!!!
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Give ‘em hell Tark! What’s old Tommy 12-pack got to say about Brett? Does Warren Moon wanna chime in? Jimmy Mac, now there’s an opinion I’d LOVE to hear! What does Jim McMahon have to say these days?
Just once, I wish my name sake would do away with all the innuendos and just tell it like it REALLY is!
Come on Fran, tell us how you really feel about farve.
Fran sounds like the pot calling the kettle black. Fran also left the Vikings for NY and bombed. He also made a career of throwing more interceptions per TD than Favre.
He sounds disgruntled and jealous of the attention toward Favre - he probably wants to hold on to his career Vikings passing records. Fran’s “not sure” Favre would be better than the quarterbacks the Vikings already have? Has he read the comments about Tarvaris Jackson by Pat Williams? Moreover, he doesn’t know what went on between TT and Favre. And talk about hurting what little legacy he has left by calling Eli Manning just a guy. Fran sounds either bitter or drunk. Thanks for the memories of 3 super bowl losses Fran.
Super Bowl Performances.
Favre 1-1 record, 5 TDs/1 INT
Fran 0-3 record, 1 TD/ 6 INTs
i cant believe thatyoull turning on fran for brett thats sad fran is a viking brett is green bay packer i dont get it someone explain and i will go away i stunned because it pains me to say that the viking is right and considered he kicked the packers ass in the 70s i mean slapped us up
The only thing that matters is whether Favre can help the Vikings win a super bowl, something Fran never helped us do.
Right, the original prima donna quarterback has this to say. I would agree if it came from someone with a little bit of class.
dang youll sad 4 real now fran aint got no class what did he do the viking nation someone explain to me 4 real i would never talk bad about bart starr hell i thought lynn dickey was better than tommy kramer eventhough i was dead wrong i would never talk bad about a packer and big up a viking i am lost kid
dang i just left buffalo and jim kelly lost 4 superbowls and he is still considered a god in that town u bet not talk bout archie in new orleans or dan fouts in san diego whats wrong with youll people on a side note congrats and a much as it hurts da twins put the beatdown on the brew crew this weekend propls 4 da twins joe mauer is a beast and rip kirby pucket
what a load of crap,who care what “fran” has to say.how many superbowls did he win???
Jim Kelly doesn’t badmouth Trent Edwards. Fran is turning on his own team by calling a perspective player “dispicable.” he is destroying his own legacy by opening his big mouth and sticking his foot in it. He should only care if we win a super bowl. Perhaps, he is afraid Favre will do something he could never do and go down as the greatest Minnesota Vikings QB ever!
[…] “I think it’s despicable,” Tarkenton told 790 The Zone in Atlanta (via the Minneapolis Star Tribune) regarding the possibility of Brett Favre playing for the Vikings. “What he put the Packers through last year was not good. Here’s an organization that was loyal to him for 17, 18 years, provided stability of organization, provided players. It just wasn’t about Brett Favre. In this day and time, we have glorified the Brett Favre’s of the world so much, they think it’s about them. He goes to New York and bombs. He’s 39 years old. How would you like Ray Nitschke in his last year [playing for] the Vikings, or I retire, and go play for the Packers? I kind of hope it happens, so he can fail.” […]
Wow, Green bay 4 life, why dont you get a life. I have a headache reading your posts.
Kudos to Fran, saying what 90% of the population already thinks.
Fran kind of hope it happens, so he can fail. Does that mean Fran will he be rooting against the Vikings if Favre is playing for them? Obviously, Fran is no longer a true Vikings fans.
Well, well, well,… Fran I-couldn’t-get-it-done Tarkenton weighs in. You loser! Pay attention, and see what a real QB can accomplish. You and Grant, the greatest chokers, ever, in the history of the Vikings organization.
Fran Tark what a joke!!
Let’s change Lambeau field because Curly left after 30 years because of a management dispute.
Left for the Bears no less.
Fran go away. I remember what people said about you at Ceders of Edina in the early 70’s. You should be ashamed of yourself you self righteos jerk.
hey, go easy on Fran, His Johnson’s Baby Shampoo commercials back in the 70’s made it the number one selling shampoo.
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