Childress: Jackson will probably take first snap
March 25th, 2009 – 10:57 AM by Chip ScogginsI just received the first part of Brad Childress’ media session today at the owners meeting in Dana Point, Calif. Here are his answers on a few subjects.
On the quarterback situation:
“We are legitimately having a competition. Someone has to take the first step, the first snap. Tarvaris will probably do that. It doesn’t mean Sage won’t step up and earn it. I have to create a situation where both guys can be protected by the offensive line, get the benefit of play-calling with Adrian Peterson. I have to get them both in all situations. Is there a certain time for a decision to be made? In a perfect world, earlier than later, but then the question could be asked, ‘Did you really have a competition.’ Typically it will be decided deep in training camp.”
Childress declined to answer anything about Broncos quarterback Jay Cutler, but when asked about anyone else competing, or coming in from the outside, he said: “J.D. Booty is also on the roster. It’s always interesting for me to see a guy that’s in his second year to see if he can make a move. He’s doing his homework, he’s changed his body around and is more familiar with the system. But if you’re handicapping this thing, those are the two (Jackson and Rosenfels) where the starter will be selected from.”
On the team’s inactivity in free agency:
“I thought we were very methodical in how we went about it. We re-signed some of our own guys. Some others piqued our interest. It wasn’t like we weren’t in there swinging with T.J. Houshmandzadeh. That would have been fairly significant money. We wanted to allocate it the right way and not be crazy about it. Last year we were very active. We signed Bernard Berrian. Call it what you want, the trade for Jared Allen. We had guys we looked (this year) at and targeted. Some were past our range as we decided whether there was value and is it worth it.”
On Matt Birk’s departure for Baltimore:
“The same sentiment was there like with Pat Williams a couple years ago when we got him done right before training camp. We could have started a year earlier but the fact is when someone wants to test the market you can’t fight with that, with someone wanting to do something new and different. At this point of his life that’s the spot where he was. He is going to come back to St. Paul after his career, but to get away from family and reach out and spread your wings a little bit, that’s something you can’t put a dollar figure on. I had no issues with Matt.”
On needs in the draft:
“We’re picking at 22 and 54 in the first two rounds and there will be good players there. We just have to get the best guys that will make an impact, no matter what position they play. Sometimes when you are evaluating and need a position, there is a tendency with, say, a second-round guy to push that guy up. You shouldn’t do that. You have to stay disciplined to your board. We’re in a position where we can improve at different positions with whoever we select.”
On possibly getting Antoine Winfield re-signed before he becomes a free agent:
“We’re having a pretty good dialogue with the agent right now. It’s ongoing and we’d like to get him done. With the uncertain future and the [collective bargaining agreement] the way it is, I’d like to have it done. It could be one year, it could be two, it could be three. But, again, we have a real good dialogue with [agent] Ashanti Webb right now.”
I’ll be back with more later. Also, it sounds like Childress said no decision has been made on whether to match the Bengals offer to restricted free agent fullback Naufahu Tahi. Childress also talked more about Houshmandzadeh visit and the conversations he had with Tarvaris Jackson and Sage Rosenfels.
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To Chili: Please leave, we don’t want you here.
Ur an idiot. The guy took us from 6-10 to 8-8 to 10-6. Give the guy a break! Its Darell Bevell thats the problem plus our Special Teams lost a couple games for us. He has done very well.. If u think a two game improvement every year isn’t good then u have a problem. Its not Childress’ fault that our D was a little banged up this year and we lost a couple more than we shoulda so quit blasting him, he has done VERY well.
Hey Chip can’t You press the coach a bit more about this new surfacing rumor about a trade for cutler? (yahoo Robinson’s story today)
PatV, Who is the idiot? Chilli took us from 9-7 to 6-10 ….. look in the mirror pal.
Patrick,
Bevell is in fact a problem, but that does fall under the headcoach, He talked about a Kickassoffense and really i don’t think it hasn’t taken off. The vikes do lead the nfl i think or at least rank high on explosive plays but thats because of Peterson ability and the occassional broken coverage pass to berrian. they are terrible on 3rd downs. they don’t score much. and have improved primarily because of weaker division foes and improved D. the vikes should have walked away with the division, but speacial teams killed us.
So yes beval should take some heat but if the HC won’t make a change then he wears it too.
Personally i would have rather kept Tice. but hey new owners needed their guy. Tice did wonders with the ragamuffins he had. Red screwed him over. such is life.
Prepare for another year of T-Joke!
Chilly has had some ups and downs, yes his record has improved each year, but the people that want him gone all seem to have the same complaint and that is the play calling. Im sorry Patrick but you cant blame Bevell for that as Chilly scripts and then over-rides the play calling from Bevell. In Chillys defense, his system is simply smash mouth football. In other words: you know whats coming and we know you know whats coming, just try and stop us! Its not fancy, but its effective!
Just think what Peterson could do with a solid offensive game plan and a legit (not some clown from a Mississippi community college or a career backup) quarterback. It’s a shame that we’re missing it…
For most QB’s this is the year to make it or pack it. i think TJack will be surprisingly better.
if not, then sage has shown that he can play..although, his stats are the same as TJ’s I always thought TJ was a surprise move, but the kid has talent, his improvment it really the norm for most QB’s. Few very few come out and do what Flacco and the other did.
Like i said it used to be that a rookie woud sit for 2-3 years..but with the cash they are making they get quicker starts and few really succeed.
True, it does feel like hes getting the same treatment as Barry Sanders got in Detroit. Almost like a waste of talent.
Before Tampa was involved in a potential three-way trade for Cutler, Minnesota was actually the first team to become engaged in talks for the quarterback. McDaniels acknowledged Tuesday that another team had inquired about Cutler prior to Tampa Bay’s interest, but he declined to name that team. A personnel source confirmed it was the Vikings. According to two league sources, the Vikings would have shipped draft picks to Denver for Cutler, and Denver would have turned around and sent picks to New England for Cassel. However, the deal fell apart early on, after some elements in the Minnesota coaching staff weren’t entirely sold on Cutler.
This is the question that needs to be answered to Viking fans i think. Who nixed it and why?
There are alot of teams in need of a starting QB besides the vikes. We have to wonder why teams arent offering Denver unbelievable compensation for Cutler? I think the rumors are true about this guy having issues. When this first surfaced there was alot of talk about maturity issues going back to Vanderbilt (think I got the right school).
Hey i agree Leif, i live in san diego so i see cutler a couple of times a year. he does have some issues. i said before on here that i don’t think he would fit so well with Chilli. he’s a gunslinger and throws it around the yard, but that being said, if he could be landed for something like the Cassel deal why not take him? he would put butts in seats and be exciting to watch.
and perhaps the vikes would be a game or two better.
without he is a leader, but could he survive with Chilli?
Hopefully there isn’t a Childress Part II.
you can ask Childress a question, you can ask Obama a question….either way, you ain’t gonna get an answer worth squat!
if T-Joke is the QB again this year, he’s going to be following Childress out the door after a disappointing season. Chili must really love this guy, because he’s going to be the reason Chili gets fired
At least Chili can speak without a teleprompter!
“For most QB’s this is the year to make it or pack it. i think TJack will be surprisingly better.”
Kinda funny, I remember a lot of fans saying that LAST year was a make or break for T-Joke and that they predicted success for him in 08.
Funny…comparing Obama to Chilly?
W and Childress are unbelievably the same in the epic quotes department.
Real story:
BUFFALO, N.Y. (AP) — Terrell Owens has a pretty good reason for missing the start of the Bills’ voluntary offseason conditioning program this week.
The star receiver is in Washington, D.C., attending the sixth annual National Alzheimer’s Gala. He’ll receive the Alzheimer’s Association’s first Young Champions Award on Wednesday night for raising awareness in the fight against the disease. Owens’ grandmother has Alzheimer’s.
Among the others being honored are French President Nicolas Sarkozy, Democratic Sen. Jay Rockefeller of West Virginia and his wife, Sharon Percy Rockefeller.
Owens, who signed with the Bills on March 7, made headlines Monday when he was one of several players who didn’t show up for the start of the team’s 12-week voluntary workout program.
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So TO’s “pretty good reason” was that he forgot?
It sure would be fun to have one organization be “open and honest” about the Cutler situation ??…Do you thunk the Vikings could be the first ??…If they decided “no” to the Cutler trade..I hope they are straight forward about it is all…Just would be nice for a change…
San Diego has some valid points. The sooner we admit were in DIRE need of someone who can read cover 2 defenses, the sooner we get over this QB crisis. He would be an instant upgrade if he and chilly could see eye to eye. So now we know the vikes were interested at one time , any sign of recent interest? I havent heard anything convincing.
Bones:
You are exactly right regarding LAST year. I think that’s why everybody EXCEPT Childress gave up on him. If you can’t figure out how to read a blitz in your 3rd year in the NFL, you’ve got some problems.
I was disappointed in this part one of the interview. I’m compiling a list of “Bradisms” and I got all excited
when I saw one of Childress’s quotes start out; “Sometimes when. . .”
I was sure it would go on to say something similar to “When you stick your arm up a cow to check it’s intestines. . .”
But it didn’t. Dang! was I disappointed!
Maybe part two will have more Bradisms to add to my ever growing list!
Bones,
It takes about 3 years for most QB’s to make it right? TJ doesn’t have that many starts, he showed much improvement when he got in at the end of the season, had the Vikes not gone 0-2 to start the year, and we lost those games not so much on account of Jackson but because of special teams and D, then i think really we would have seen Jackson performing at an acceptable level. His confidence was ruined after putting so much pressure on himself, in those first two games.
we will see…but this is definetly my last year of supporting the QB experiment.
[…] Childress went on to maintain that, in fact, Tarvaris has not been handed the starter’s job, no matter what T.J. Houshmandzadeh says: We are legitimately having a competition. Someone has to take the first step, the first snap. Tarvaris will probably do that. It doesn’t mean Sage won’t step up and earn it. I have to create a situation where both guys can be protected by the offensive line, get the benefit of play-calling with Adrian Peterson. I have to get them both in all situations. Is there a certain time for a decision to be made? In a perfect world, earlier than later, but then the question could be asked, “Did you really have a competition.” Typically it will be decided deep in training camp. […]
March 25th, 2009 at 1:13 pm
So, “some elements in the Minnesota coaching staff weren’t entirely sold on Cutler”. And some of those same guys felt the same way about Adrian. And Drew Brees. Well, I hate to say this, but some elements on Access Vikings aren’t entirely sold on THE MINNESOTA COACHING STAFF either!
Yeah, I said it! ! !
take back that pick in the play-offs and we would all be saying Tarvaris was a new QB last year. When he came off the bench and finished the season last year, his QB rating was off the charts and he really did look like a different QB! Truth is Philly had our # and it wasnt our QB that lost the game, he just sealed it with the late pick!
How ’bout this one, Fran (the man):
“Booty, he’s changed his body around”
What does he mean by that?
This is killing me.
What was interesting to me last year, was that it seemed like when T Jack came off the bench he wasn’t half bad…but when he was the designated starter, he seemed to get progressively worse…ALMOST like Brad’s coaching hurt his game instead of helping it.
Just a gut feeling I had.
If T-Joke hasn’t gotten it by now…
To PatrickV,
Easy to say he has improved. Take a look at the talent they brought in each year. Mike Tice did not have that luxury and still had a better record his last year than Chilly in his first year. Doesn’t take a genious to figure out that this guy is no offensive genious! Remember the comments he made about T-Joke’s college QB coach saying he hoped he didn’t wreck him yet. Meaning Chilly thought this guy didn’t know what he was doing. Jokes on us people. Kick Ass Offense baby!
LiLief is right about the pick.
and tomb is right too i think…..
i think chili tried to over coach him and rattled him a bit…all that just dont turn it over, control the game BS.
Jackson has skills. he throws one of the prettiest balls, tight and i think very catchable. sure he gets happy feet and a bit excited and over throws the ball at times,but our WR are not doing any QB any favors, they run terrible routes and can never get seperation.
His physical skills have never been in question, it’s the mental aspect of the game that causes him to fail. You either have smarts or you don’t…
It could be argued that an NFL QB faces the most pressure to perform of any position in all of sports. If the guy you pick to lead your team completely cracks under the intense pressure during the 1st 2 games of the regular season, then maybe you picked the wrong guy. I will admit that T-Joke played better coming off the bench, but that shouldn’t be the scenario you want to have your QB placed in so that he can finally play consistently.
T-Jack puts to much pressure on “himself”…Chili worked like nuts to have him keep his passes from sailing out of bounds on go routes…T-Jack doesn’t trust his reads half the time or his receivers to make plays…He does WELL off the bench…But give him time to “think” about being this weeks starter or listening to the media saying “its all up to Tarvaris and how he handles the game” ??…I think bringing in Sage will be good for T jack…Only thing he needs to beat out for the QB position now…He won’t be thinking of all that other junk…
What kills me about the Cutler report is that “some elements in the Minnesota coaching staff weren’t entirely sold on Cutler.” Did WE nix this deal? Because we weren’t sold on Cutler? As opposed to the chopped liver we’ve got in our QB rotation?
Gambler: Changing your body around is fun! Mr. Potatohead does it all the time…
Hoping Booty body looked better with his shirt off ~ than Andre Smith did !!!…: )
Bones I guess your right, either you can read defenses or you cant. However I think their is a time line you give a guy to learn the system and in Tarvaris’ case coming out of div 2 college you have to give him that extra year…….This will definately come to a head this year. As Pride said earlier Chilly plans to go with Tarvaris all the way and ! think CHILLY and TARVARIS are either going to be hero’s or they will be run out of town.
Yea the way i read it…the Vikes nixed it.
Sage and Tjack will be good competition.
If cutler could have come in for a good trade that would have been nice too. But no Walker deals…please.
There is some good talent at positions the vikes need to fill in this draft. so ihope they dont sell the farm to get cutler.
sd, Chilli “overcoach”? ha ha ha . The guy can’t coach, period. So over coaching TJoke is impossible. Bill Walsh couldn’t help make TJoke anything more than a 3rd stringer.TJokes game against Philly was terrible even if you throw out that Int. Improvement?? ha ha ha, not when it couonts!
Bones
yup, not only smarts, but leadership….TJ’s been overwhelmed since he arrived…..you remember when they asked him if he was ready to lead and he said………..no………and all the way to this year when he suddenly announces he needs to do a lot of extra hard work to improve????????
I’m sorry, TJ, it’s over……Brad’s being nice with the competition thing and all, but it’s the Purple Sage all the way now…..and no more talk about the aledged alcoholic from CO!
Bones is right…You have to be able to read a defense..its that simple..And after 3 yrs the coach should trust you to change the play at the line of scrimmage after reading that defense…And Chili doesn’t trust him for that either…
The thing that bothers me the most about the mental aspect of T-Joke’s game is the fact that he admittedly didn’t want to start after Johnson and Bollinger went down in 06. Winners are always chomping at the bit to get on the field and contribute. I don’t think this kid has any fire in his belly. He also sounds really, really dumb when interviewed…
Mel I dont want to get in a pissing match with you like yesterday. BUT…. do you really think this guy hasent made HUGE strides? If you admit you have seen improvement each year, how can you say there is no chance of this guy turning out to be an Elite QB? You will have no credibility on this site next year if T-Jack has his break-out year!
These are the things that have me curious..
Thing #1: I think (maybe I am WAY off here), that 10-6 is better than 9-7 (Kiper’s argument) but then again, thats just me.
Thing #2: If the pattern continues, the Vikes will go 12-4 this year. I wonder how many of the bloggers here will have to eat crow if and when that happens.
Not a Chilli apologist by any means, just curious as to what time will tell us.
Leif, No TJoke has not made strides. if 15-35 AT HOME against Philly is what you want at QB then the Vikes will be a huge dissapointment for years to come. He Suks, it is that black & white.
Postseason - 2008 15 35 164 42.9% 45.4QB rating.
I guess he is still technically a rookie tho.
good point Bones…He doesn’t ever seem to want to take the bull by the horns !!…That one quote where someone said about T-Jack early in the season where he looked like a “deer in the head lights” in the huddle…3 yrs ??..He should be atleast over that you would think ??
ALSO, TJokes passing % on passes 11 yards and longer- 42% YES 21-50 on passes 11 yards and longer. THAT BLOWS! Improvement?? hahaha
If its ” Purple Sage all the way”, we could be in just as much trouble as with T-Jack. Lets hope Booty’s new body transforms him into a starting QB. He was abysmal last year in the pre-season, hopefully after a year of watching and practicing he will have gotten better. Of course, he is getting the same coaching that T-Jack is getting….
Can anyone imagine Favre, Montana, Marino, Young, Bradshaw, etc. EVER saying they didn’t want in the game? No confidence, no leadership skills, no decision-making ability.
well i don’t think he is elite
but i think he can play.
if sage plays like he can then the vikes will be ok this year even if TJ burns
I was happy to hear talks about Winfield are going well !!!…I think he has “plenty” of football left in him…Hope that extention gets done soon…
Mel maybe you missed the Cardinal Game where T-Jack put up very respectable #s and a QB rating of 119.5? Or maybe you dont want to remember anything positive this kid has done as then you would look like a complete ass?
Leif:
What HUGE strides are you claiming T-Jack has made? And don’t give me some crap involving the Detroit game, because it was DETROIT. The guy is inconsistent at best, and as we all know, all Brad wants from his QB is consistency…lets make those routine plays routinely.
This is from an article today on Yahoo Sports about Cutler:
Before Tampa was involved in a potential three-way trade for Cutler, Minnesota was actually the first team to become engaged in talks for the quarterback. McDaniels acknowledged Tuesday that another team had inquired about Cutler prior to Tampa Bay’s interest, but he declined to name that team. A personnel source confirmed it was the Vikings. According to two league sources, the Vikings would have shipped draft picks to Denver for Cutler, and Denver would have turned around and sent picks to New England for Cassel. However, the deal fell apart early on, after some elements in the Minnesota coaching staff weren’t entirely sold on Cutler.
See the last sentence? The Vikes coaching staff weren’t sold on Cutler. So there you go everyone. The Vikes could have had Cutler, but Chilly wasn’t sold on his talent. Enough said about our coach. He should be fired immediately.
bleep purple:
I’m with you on the Winfield extension. Just curious as to why they chose to lock up the questionable corner first and then try to extend the contract of the proven veteran. Is there some underlying genius behind that strategy?
Vikings “Staff”…WHO ??…They didn’t say “Chili”…
Leif that’s ONE GAME. Did you see TJokes stats I posted?? Boy he sure can throw check downs tho!!
Alright Pride your right I just get so excited because it seems like were so close, all we need is this kid to get his crap together! We have surrounded him with talent, yes I know we need one more receiver but that shouldnt be hard to address (Tori Holt) and with as you put it Pride, a little consistency from our QB and we make it to the show!
They both play the run very well though…I read a piece where TE Ben Utecht says the Vikes are going to be VERY happy getting Glen Holt too !!..Him saying the only reason him not being more well known..Was trying to come out from the shadows that Chad Johnson and Houshman were casting on the playing field in Cicy..Ben thinks he might be special playing for the Vikes ??…
…you definitely never know.
Who the f*** was Brady before the Bledsoe injury?
Glen holt will definetly improve our special teams
What does Ben know? Fact of the matter is the Bengals didn’t try too hard to retain him.
Heck a trained monkey could help our special teams.
I just wonder “who” the Vikes will try for in the draft for a corner ??…I think thats the toughest position in the draft to project “how well” they will do at the next level ??…
Heard the same HYPE about Maurice “slower than a turtle” Hicks last year.
Still puzzled by the “some elements in the Minnesota coaching staff weren’t entirely sold on Cutler” statement. I found this, (from a Packer fan, so you can’t believe it):
“As a Packer fan, I am unbiased here. I know Cutler a little bit, and he’s a serious alcoholic who acts like he’s 18. He has diabetes as we all know, but he gets hammered and smokes all the time. He’s a bad dude. His arm is good though. His head? Nahh”
Mel..Cicy offered Holt more than the Vikes did ??…But he had already accepted the Vikings offer verbally already…
Chilli says- “We are legitimately having a competition”. As compared to an illegitimately QB competition? What amoron.
I might be wrong on that one though…Maybe that was the Paymah deal ??
I doubt Glen Holt will save our special teams. Different coach might make a huge difference though.
Mel the pesemist, listening to you makes me want to be a Lions fan! Are you predicting an 0-16 finish for our vikes?
C’mon guys, the Bengals were willing to swallow their pride and re-sign Chris Henry and put him ahead of Holt on their depth chart! He is what he is, someone none of us had ever heard of before he signed here…
No bleed, I think you are correct.
Bones, Your first response got a laugh out of BIGVIKING….
Good to hear that Booty “changed his body around”???
Chilli (the QB expert) probably didn’t like Cutlers ‘throwing mechanics’. Also, he likes guys that he feels confident he can keep under his thumb.
No Leif, we are only a QB & Head Coach away from a Super Bowl. Two things that won’t change until it’s too late. Just a realist.
Are the Browns going to do anything with D. Anderson? Maybe that is where the Vikings should be looking as opposed to Cutler?
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It really doesn’t matter. Jackson can’t make it through the season anyway. He will be hurt 4 games in. I just can’t believe the head coach keeps insisting on giving this guy shots. The other problem is that we don’t have another 4 years to build a QB and why does everyone think that you have to invest so much time “developing” QB’s? I’d give a rookie three years tops to show me he can be a winner and make plays and that would have to be on a team that is BUILDING, not one that is primed.
Childress says we were “methodical” in FA? Methodically bad. RT? DB? WR? FB? I’m still waiting for an answer. This team better win to start the season or it is BLACKOUT city and the coach will be gone. If he’s not, Zygi can take his ash and leave. I won’t put up with this for another year.
10-6 and NFC North Champs, The leagues leading rusher and a killer Defense. A quite successful 3rd season for any Head Coach. A good year for the Vikes if you look back at the last 5 years. All that with Gus at the helm, we should have stuck with T-Jack last year and by now we would all know if he has a future in MN. Instead we went with a career back-up and now were waiting another year on T-Jack to develop. The experiment will end this year and we will all know for sure if he has it or if he dont!
The situation wouldn’t be as bad if dumbass Chili didn’t trade up to get him in the second round. Most experts had anywhere from a 4-7 round grade on him. Chili feels obligated since he traded up to pick him and that is bull.
Look at the Patriots and what they have done with QB’s. Tom Brady 6th round, Matt Cassel 7th round and he had never started a game since high school. I know this is an extreme case, but nevertheless, it goes to show the ability, or lack there of, for childress to develop a QB like he says he can. Would have better of letting off tjoke walk and kept Tyler Thigpen.
“Booty, he’s changed his body around”
What does he mean by that?
Kenny, I think it might mean he had his left arm changed over to his right arm and visa-versa.
“Booty, he’s changed his body around”
What does he mean by that?
I sure hope it wasn’t like a sex change operation. . .
I thought it was funny when Childress said,
“Sometimes when you are evaluating and need a position, there is a tendency with, say, a second-round guy to push that guy up. You shouldn’t do that. You have to stay disciplined to your board. We’re in a position where we can improve at different positions with whoever we select.”
Didn’t he push Jackson up a round or two when he traded picks to get him?
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