Report: Vikings close to dealing for Rosenfels
February 23rd, 2009 – 12:44 PM by Judd ZulgadThe Vikings and Houston Texans are close to completing a trade that would send quarterback Sage Rosenfels to Minnesota, according to the Houston Chronicle. The Vikings reportedly would give up a fourth-round draft choice.
Update: Sports Radio 610 out of Houston is reporting that the Vikings are offering a fifth-round pick and the Texans are seeking a third. They will probably settle on a fourth-rounder. Meanwhile, the station also reports the Vikings have offered a three-year, $9 million extension to Rosenfels.
A Vikings spokesman said today that the team would have no comment. This is the second year in a row the Vikings have attempted to get Rosenfels. Last year, the Vikings offered Houston a third-round pick but the talks ended when the Texans asked for a second-rounder.
Vikings coach Brad Childress said Friday that he wanted someone to compete with Tarvaris Jackson for the starting quarterback job and that if Gus Frerotte elected to return for the final season of his contract he could be the guy. However, if a trade for Rosenfels is completed that likely means Frerotte won’t be back.
Rosenfels, who is from Iowa and played at Iowa State, had one season left on his contract with the Texans. He will turn 31 on March 6.
Rosenfels has been in the NFL for eight seasons, spending one season with Washington, four with Miami and three with Houston. He has started five games each of the past two seasons and went 2-3 last season. Here is Rosenfels’ bio page from NFL.com.
Rosenfels did not start in the Texans’ 28-21 loss at the Metrodome on Nov. 2, but he did replace the injured Matt Schaub in that game. He completed 21 of 29 passes for 224 yards with two touchdowns and an interception.
Rosenfels was 4-1 in his five starts in 2007 and certainly upped his value by going 3-1 in the Texans’ final four games that season. He threw seven touchdowns and five interceptions in that time. This included three touchdown passes in a 28-14 victory over Tampa Bay but two weeks later he threw three interceptions in a 38-15 loss to Indianapolis. Rosenfels lost his first three starts last season before guiding the Texans to victories over Cleveland and Jacksonville.
Even if the trade is agreed upon, it will not become official until 11 p.m. Thursday when the NFL’s new league year will begin. That also will mark the start of free agency.
101 Responses to "Report: Vikings close to dealing for Rosenfels"
Yea Rosey had 6TD passes and 10 interceptions last year. How Tarvaris Jackson like.
Better than Gus and Rex, still not what i want, but better than could be.
Go Vikes
Oh yea for his career Rosey has 34 turnovers (Int & fumbles) and 30 TD passes. What a waste.
Holy criminately, you guys wanna slow down with the new blogs? Tomb has purely talented posts going to waste back there!
WE should still bring in Garcia. TJack can wash Chilli’s socks.
Bye Bye Gus….whew.
What a waste! Does anybody remember how Sage lost a couple games last year purely on him being a dumbass! Bring Garcia in!
Fred just hope we leave room for REX
2-4-6-8 who does Freds appreciate? Sage, Sage…..goooooooo Rosey!!!!!!!
I can’t wait to get to Minnesota and work with genius Coaches Childress & Bevel! With that KAO I should throw for 20,000 yards and 160 TD’s in 2009!
Awesome. Rosenfels is a certain upgrade from anyone we currently have on our roster.
Thank you for your supports Sage!
Sage, do you have big hands? Did Childo make you grip a football before he said you our mans?
Does this mean we will not get the guy from New England????
Go Vikes
C’mon Sage, Texas is full of steers and queers. Minn-e-sota is the place you want to be. So, start loading up your truck and head to Minne-ap-po-lis/Saint P.
Hills that is. Swimming holes. Movie Stars. Ludefisk. Lefse.
From Merriam-Webster:
Main Entry: sage
Function: noun
Date: 14th century
1 : one (as a profound philosopher) distinguished for wisdom
2 : a mature or venerable man of sound judgment
How do you argue with that?
V. John, we still have our first, second, and third draft choices left if we want to get Cassels or Vick.
Sic ‘em, Rick!
I don’t see this as much of an upgrade. Marvin Harrison is on the market…maybe that’s where some cap money will go.
Sage, a few questions:
1) How is your jump pass?
2) Are you capable of drilling a guy out of bounds for a 15 yard penalty after throwing an interception..DURING a playoff game?
3)Will you promise to get pancaked like a Pop Warner 8 year old by a pro lineman after throwings a pick?
4) Can you over throw countless receivers on deep patterns? If you throw if 10 yards out of bounds, all the betters.
5)Can you throw without having your feet set?
6) Do you like boat rides?
Heck yeah, Fragile! He may be a triple threat guy! Sage in action, check it out:
http://www.larrytt.com/celebrities_playing_tt/sage_rosenfels.jpg
I need rotator cuff surgery.
Fred,
1-huh?
2-what?
3-what kind of nomb skull would do that?
4-why?
5-wtf?
6-only if booze and women are involved.
Rosenfels passer rating in the last 3 years hasn’t gone above 70%. Garcia in the last 3 years has been 90%+. What’s wrong with this picture? I get it;s because Garcia is a starter caliber QB. But nothing in Rosenfels stats excites me. Garcia needs to be signed for a year, right now. To me, it’s the best move out of the realistic choices we have.
Kenny,
Nice picture. Where is his Pa, Andy?
Maybe I meant numb skull.
ghost, watch what you say about me. I havd a paddle and I know how to use it.
GHOST:
Garcia prolly has a hotter wife. But here’s the pride of Macoqueta Iowa! His wife’s a babe and he looks like a great family guy. Play the slideshow:
Who cares if he’s a nice guy. Can he play the position better than Gus or T-Jack? Do you want a 98% chance of going the the superbowl this year, or do you want to wait another 2 years? I live our odds better with Garcia. His wife alone will sell merchandise.
ghost, If i weren’t such a nice guy I’d flick your ear. And leave my wife out of this!
Awesome!! we lose a 4th round pick, which we could pick up a worthy QB, and get another Gus Freotte. Get real.
Bunch of ungratefuls.
HaHa, Spicegirl Rosenfels has nothing on me. The Vikings stole me with 2 2nd round picks!
A team loaded with Backup quarterbacks…who is making these stupid personnel decisions? More QB by committee again!!!!
Don’t forget about me. Oh By The Way, I have offically changed my name. Do you all like it?
John David Ass just didn’t sound right.
Listen hockeyfox. With the addition of Sage our QB position will be the envy of the NFL.
We are also currently negotiating with the Bears for Rex Grossman in exchange for a 2nd round pick. Just watch the ol Rickster pull that one off!
Good name, JDB. But Spicegirl Rosenfels will be receiving a POSH contract according to reports from Houston. That’s kind of SCARY, because as far as experience goes, he’s just a BABY. But if treated GINGER-ly he could grab the starting job and he’ll be a SPORTY addition to our quarterbacking corps!
Since Sage has started only 12 games he is still a rookie. And we think he is better than any quarterback that would be avalible for us in the 4th round.
Updated with another report out of Houston if you want to refresh.
This is not a done deal yet, so maybe we can still get Grossman or Boller?
Go Vikes
Man they are really going to do it, aren’t they? Sage instead of Garcia.
I promised myself I wouldn’t cry.
Judd, I need a hug.
The best thing about a potential signing of Rosenfels is that I can plan something else to do on my Sunday afternoons. Best comment on here is, ‘oh good, another backup qb’. I feel the same way. If the ‘brass’ thinks TJack is potentially the guy, bring in a legitimate NFL qb like Garcia for year or two. Do you think the veterans are excited about Rosenfels? I have tried to give Childress every benefit of the doubt, but I think the qb position is his security blanket. After a while, someone has to figure out he is the guy picking the qb.
Brad Childress is a quarterback genius. Look what he has done with Tarvaris Jackson.
The fourth rounder seems about right, but 3 years 3 million for Sporty Spice seems a little steep. A golden opportunity for him to be a starter though. Might as well draft the Freeman kid from K-State and develop him now. 6-6 and 250 pounds. And he even looks like Culpepper:
Why does Brad Childress feel that it is okay for a playoff caliber team to compromise at the quarterback position? Sage Rosenfels will be, at his very best, a below average quarterback in this league. He doesn’t represent an improvement in my mind over Gus FreeRot, except that he may be around longer because he is younger. Does he have experience running a WCO (not to mention a KAO!)? Please pass on Sage and do the right thing by signing Jeff Garcia. Even at age 39, Garcia is a very good fit for this team right now. He knows the WCO, can read defenses and make quick decisions, is very elusive so he buys time to make plays, and is a true gamer. He would be an exciting quartberback for this football team. Maybe Brad is afraid that Garcia is smarter than him?
You people know nothing about football talent and personnel moves. Yes Sage did throw more pics than TD’s last year but only one of his ints was his fault. His wideouts either ran too fast or too slow and a couple of the int’s were because of short arms on his recievers. You all need to get the facts straight before you complain.
Strange Scouting Report
Assets: Very good accuracy. Solid decision maker. Is always prepared and often has big games off the bench. Decent mobility.
Flaws: Mediocre arm. Can’t get the ball into tight spots. Limits the offense and looks worse the more he plays.
How does a guy 6′5″ and 225 have mediocre arm strength? Not from what I’ve observed.
If you look at ten interceptions they break down as eight in the 2nd half. Four of the intercepts were in a 41-14 blowout against the Raven. My feeling is you give this guy average protection he’ll get you the completions.
4th rounder. 3 years, $9 mil. That leaves $19 million under the salary cap to sign free agent WR and OT, plus sign all your draft picks. While Sage certainly isn’t the guy most of us wanted, what we really don’t want is TJ and Gus going at it all year long. I guess beggars can’t be choosers. And I’m talking about us fans.
The only way I would be OK with Sage, is if they ALSO brought in Garcia…
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Tell us some more Lost. I need to hear more good news. Please. I really don’t know anything about Sage. But I do know a lot about T.Jackson. The more I know, the less I want to know about TJ.
The only thing I can not figure out is everytime we call the Texans and inquire about Sage they start to laugh and ask us “Really?” and we say yes, they start to laugh again, very puzzling to me.
Judd, I think Gun needs a hug too.
Sorry Tomb, if we get the Sage Grouse, no Garcia. Like I said before, Chilly didn’t want him 2-3 years ago, he will not bring him in now.
Go Vikes
You all want to join the Rickster in an all male group hug? It’s a good male bonding thing.
Right, V-John. If Garcia would lead the Vikes deep into the playoffs, it would be Garcia’s team, not Chili’s. It’s not happening as far as I can see.
Rickster, I have this overwhelming desire to beat the tar out of you.
Comments from Texan fan all over the place. Some are saying a 4th rounder not sufficient compensation for starting NFL QB. Others say the 4th rounder should be conditional.
Most worry about Schaub going it alone.
www.chron.com/disp/discuss.mpl/sports/fb/texansfront/6276358.html?p=6
Keep in mind that comments are from a state where they’ve allowed teachers to arm themselves with handguns in the classroom.
I can just see the box score.
1st and 10: Run to the left
2nd and 9: Run to the right
3rd and 8: Rosenfels pass intercepted
All of the sudden I am suppose to believe in Klink’s ability to select potent QBs?
Jackson will have little trouble retaining his job as starter.
Sage gets my loins warm.
Jackson starting lays the ground work for another poor season.
Lots of differing opinions on Sage Grouse there, Lost. One guy wondered why his “valve” dropped since last year, so that was funny. But some seem to think “Rosencopter” will be OK for Minny.
(i personally am leaning toward rosie sagebrush)
Hey Tomb,
Also from From Merriam-Webster:
Main Entry: sage
1 a: a European perennial mint (Salvia officinalis) with grayish-green aromatic leaves used especially in flavoring meats.
Gunner,
I’ve watched Rosenfels a few times. Odd thing is he comes across the opposite of T-Jax.
T-Jax makes the throws and has good passing stats but you just don’t feel confident in the guy’s ability.
Rosenfels just looks the part of the NFL QB. Lots of similarities to Schaub although Schaub perhaps more accurate. Then again he’s just as capable of giving you the headscratching bonehead plays as T-Jax or anyone else.
Still you have to like the trade. Rosenfels looks good behind centre and has all the tools. Competitive, team guy.
My two cents: Sage is a smart trade, especially if it is for a non-conditional fourth rounder… that’d be a steal. He may not be Tom Brady or Peyton Manning, but either is anyone else available out there. I think Sage is a great fit for our so-called scheme. Most backups are going to be inefficient passers coming off the bench, but if you give him the time to learn the system and head into Sundays knowing he’s the starter, then he’ll be more efficient.
This deal still leaves us plenty of cap space to improve the O-Line and Secondary in free agency. Remember, even if it doesn’t work out with Sage and he’s deemed a backup, we are entering the contract years of our two current backup/rotational starters in Gus and TJack. So maybe in 2010 sage is backing up yet another new QB, but at least that’s an upgrade over TJack backing up Gus, or vice versa.
Repeat after me…We Do Not Need Another Backup.
Vikings want top of the line facilities yet give us Metrodome quality QB’s. Go Figure.
T-Jax makes the throws and has good passing stats? Lost you are lost.
So what you’re saying is, trade and sign Sage for only $3 mil a year, Gus leaves now, and next year might bring another free agent QB in with TJ out, with Sage still making only $3 mil a year. I like it.
I also like the idea of just calling the guy Sage. That says enough without these dumb nicknames or insulting names. Then again, I think just calling the Packers; “The Packers”; is insulting enough and we don’t have to reduce ourselves to the terpentine drinking crowd from the state of WI.
Lost Viking ,
Teachers with handguns?
Now THAT’S what I would call a safe school!
An armed society is a polite society. . .
Repeat after me…it’s not about what you want, it’s about what you can get. Hey, I’d love to get any number of QB’s, but that isn’t happening. I just don’t want to be stuck with the same mess as last year. And, for once, I’m saying change for the sake of change is needed.
BTW, when I say “it’s about what you can get”, I mean, what the fans can get, not what the Vikings can get. I know the Vikes can try and sign Garcia, Warner, Cassel, Leftwich, etc. But it appears the team does not want to do that. Childress may sound insane or be lieing when he says TJ and Gus will compete for the starting spot, but what if he was serious? Good god!
Sage may wind up being a decent, even good trade…but doesn’t it seem like we are settling?
…or in a variant of Brad-speak: like we are bringing the “cute but chubby” date to prom that will likely want to stay a virgin, instead of the hot chick you KNOW puts out.
Repeat after me…if all you want is change, give Booty a shot. There is a reason Houston isn’t keeping him. There is a reason he was not their starting QB. I might actually prefer TJack over Sage. Garcia should be a viable option for the Vikings…period.
good one tomb kinda like as chili put it yesterday putting a square peg in a round hole
maybe i can’t say that
How about these gunslinger?
Spicegirl Tulipnfels
Thyme Daisynfels
Garlic Creepingjennynfels
Pepper Poinsettanfels
Lemonpepper Irisnfels
Hello people, its not what we want, it is what the Chilly master wants.(Even if it is not good)
Garcia is not going to be wearing purple. Sorry
Go Vikes
Childress IS a square peg.
…and he’s bald.
Tomb, not settling in a way. If we sign a big name expensive QB then we’re going to find ourselves “settling” when trying to replace Sharper, Birk, and K-saucer anyways.
Tomb, you’re right, there’s a reason the Texans are letting him leave. And that reason is simply that it’s his contract year and if they don’t let him leave then they’ll never get any compensation for him.
Parsley Sage Rosenfels and Thyme?
(Simon and Garfunkle “Scarborough Fair”)
If you bring in Garcia, Cassel etc you’ve really got to bring him in and pay him as starter. With Sage you’re starting to pay him as a starter. What you really have though is an option as starter. Go compete for the job.
Criticism of T-Jax on AV site is mostly over the top. Look at his statistics. Compare last season of career stats against any 3rd year QB. Aside from the size of T-Jax college program (yada yada) this was a good 2nd round pick. Fact: T-Jax has much better stats than Vince Young, Kellen Clemens, Alex Smith and Matt Leinart.
IF they are letting him leave and ONLY getting a 4th rounder for him, that speaks volumes. You would think quite a few teams would have an interest in him for a 4th round pick…if he was any good that is.
The last guy lost me when he started a sentence; “I might actually prefer Tjack…”
Or when he tried to make an example of starting a 3rd stringer over Sage because I want a change. Poor example.
The move to Rosenfels opens the door to picking up Favre later. They are only trading a 4th round draft choice. Frerotte, Cassel and likely even Garcia were problems because they demanded to be the starter.
Tjack had an average year…about what you will get from Sage. Change is change, but not necessarily good. How many honestly believe Sage can take the Vikings to the superbowl?
Roselfels is just another average Qb…what are they thinking?! Why not hold out and try to get McNabb or Hasslebeck? These kind of decisions made by Vikings staff are EXACTLY why the Vikes might end up in L.A.
Lost Viking, stats don’t mean squat!! It is what they do under presssure. Any NFL QB can look great with good protection,(which our overpriced and overhyped line hardly ever gives against a good team) but under pressure TJ-D-, Gus C, and JD-???
Definitely not the top 30 QB on my list that I would want, but that is the best we could get with Chili in charge.
Jackson will lose the starting job to Rosenfels easily.
Rosenfels is a way better QB than what we have had in the last few years.
But I would rather take;
Cassel, Hasselback, Palmer, and McNabb
All we can hope now is that John David Booty shows that he can be a great starter in training camp.
Then he would lead us to the Super Bowl.
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SAGE!?!?!? please will someone tell me that is such joke! vikes should wait till free agent shopping begin! if im owner of vikes then i wouldnt want Sage! i would rather to get veteran QB who can lead vikes to super bowl!
SAGE!?!?!? please will someone tell me that is such joke! vikes should wait till free agent shopping begin! if im owner of vikes then i wouldnt want Sage! i would rather to get veteran QB who can lead vikes to super bowl!
SAGE!?!?!? please will someone tell me that is such joke! vikes should wait till free agent shopping begin! if im owner of vikes then i wouldnt want Sage! i would rather to get veteran QB who can lead vikes to super bowl!
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