The latest on Jared Allen/UPDATED with pretty pictures
April 18th, 2008 – 12:55 PM by Judd ZulgadDefensive end Jared Allen is at Winter Park right now talking to Vikings officials. It’s also believed his agent, Ken Harris, is in the building. That means only one thing: they are talking contract. The latest we’re hearing is that an agreement with the Chiefs is close to being in place and this thing could get done quick. We emphasize the word could, so don’t get too excited yet.
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Allen is going to want a lot of Zygi Wilf’s money. Safe to say, the NFL’s sack leader from 2007 is going to want more than the Colts gave end Dwight Freeney last July. Freeney’s six-year contract – $72 million over six years with a $30 million signing bonus — made him the highest-paid defensive player in NFL history.
Considering the fact a player with Allen’s ability could make this one of the top defenses in the NFL, the guess is that Wilf and Co. will pay the price.
Update: As of 3:50 p.m., Allen remains inside Winter Park. How do we know this? Well, a very big limousine is sitting in the parking lot of the Vikings facility. The Vikings also had limos wait outside when they were negotiating with free agents Bernard Berrian and Madieu Williams.
Update II: The Chiefs had a pre-draft media briefing today in Kansas City and to no one’s surprise team President Carl Peterson was asked about the Allen situation. “If we wanted to prohibit Jared and his agent from having the opportunity to look at teams, we would have put the exclusive franchise tag on him,” Peterson said. “We didn’t do that. In years past, we have used the exclusive. So we’ll see what happens, but to this point, nothing has happened. To continue to talk about it over the next 24-48 hours, is just pure speculation. If something does happen, we’ll let you know. If it doesn’t happen, he’s certainly our franchise player.”
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Thanks Judd!
First!?
I hope Wilf will pay.
Kevin/Judd - what happened to the control of these blogs? People can use what ever name they want and trash this blog. It’s getting out of control.
First runner up… 
If you kill the messenger for bad news, I’m going to have to give you … a hearty backslapping hug, Judd. (Talking about football the whole time, of course, to reassert my masculinity.)
Thank Jeff for that!
But wisvike, tell me this: why are you so quick to forgive and believe in Jared Allen but you have a maniacal hatred of Favre… when Favre DID ‘clean his life up’, overcame his addictions and made amends - either personally or by virtue of a court order - either way he ‘paid his dues’ so to speak…
Maybe to your screwy way of thinking Favre’s problems weren’t as ‘difficult’ as Allen’s. Or wait, maybe he got ’special treatment’ because he was in Sconnie and you know how those Puker fans are - they never criticized him, they never said a bad word about him or his onfield mistakes and they certainly put him on a pedestal…huh…
Yep, I see your point. I see the light!
Now where did I put that purple and gold thong Ole sent me…
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Hell, you could have just asked me. Man Zoolander, what kind of reporter are you?
KEN HARRIS IS IN THE BUILDING……
(did I sound like Elvis’ announcer?)
Bucky - if you would have answered the question about the starving children in third world countries a little better, you might not have only been 1st runner up………
Torgo = Dorko
Defensive end Jared Allen is at Winter Park right now talking to Vikings officials. It’s also believed his agent, Ken Harris, is in the building. That means only one thing: they are talking contract. The latest we’re hearing is that an agreement with the Chiefs is close to being in place and this thing could get done quick. We emphasize the word could, so don’t get too excited yet.
Allen is going to want a lot of Zygi Wilf’s money. Safe to say, the NFL’s sack leader from 2007 is going to want more than the Colts gave end Dwight Freeney last July. Freeney’s six-year contract – $72 million over six years with a $30 million signing bonus — made him the highest-paid defensive player in NFL history.
Considering the fact a player with Allen’s ability could make this one of the top defenses in the NFL, the guess is that Wilf and Co. will pay the price.
CJ - I hate Brett Favre because it’s all about him and not anything about the team. I never said it was easy for him and his problems, what I have said is that people made him to be a saint and never talk about his past, but with ohter players, especially Vikings when fans of the pack talk, they say that green bay is holy and trouble free but vikings will always be bad people.
Yes, the fans in wisconsin did and still do put him on a pedestal. Including you.
GET THIS DONE!
Jared- In all fairness I’ll explain a little bit about what it is I do. For instance, if my favorite team signs you to a bunch of money and you go on a drunknen high speed chase thru St. Peter on you way to Mankato. I’ll head on over to Winter Park first thing in the morning and crack your fkn head open in front of all your teammates and by the time I’m getting out of jail, hopefully, you’ll be coming out of your coma…..and you know what? I’ll split your….. 
The hold up is Viking Queen, she has not yet signed her contract to be my babysitter/Beer fetcher/Accountant. As soon as she signs I’ll sign. I mean $100 K plus tips is a good contract for her don’t you think?
Nope! I got it now - because it’s a player with ‘issues’ who is considering becoming a member of the purple, it’s ok!
Damn, I’m so slow sometimes I’m surpised I’m still breathing. My bad.
Cool Clubbers, I’ll remove myself from honorary club membership now. I’m sure I’ve been bringing down the IQ of the group for a while….
Viking Queen
Buster Rhymes
Cajun Jeep
Inferno Viking
Am I missing anyone?
I also never said I was forgiving him or believe in him. I said if this is what he is doing.
Dagnabit, VQ! I thought I told you to get your wiles over to Winter Park!
Nice! I made the list!
Better to be a loser in good company than a winner alone, I always say 
wisvike are you really Gomer Pyle?
Torgo = Dorko
Add
Torgo
VBP
Craig
Tess Steckel
Delete
VikingQueen
Buster
Slow is okay, CJ. I like a lover with a slow hand.
CoolClub has been giving the Cool Club a bad name.
It’s my business….it’s what I do.
Funny thing is, you idiots probably thought that was me that wrote that list, it wasn’t but I sure do agree with it.
Inferno is not on my list though. RTG is.
I’d rather be floatin’ on a boat than sinkin’ on a yacht….
please get this done. Literaly the difference between making the playoffs or not. Nobody in the draft gonna be worth much at 17 anyway.
CJ - you can’t go now, you made the UBL! 
wisvike, explain why RTG is on your people you wish to kiss list? I need a Buckhorn.
Is this not a football blog? Seems like a lot of stupid nonsense and some form of popularity contest. Most of the comments in this thread are basically you all going back and forth at each other with insults. The Wild, Twins, Wolves, and Gopher blogs all talked about their respective sports. I will sit back and wait for the all so original insult from Buster Rhymes now.
What kind of homo name is Chip? You tie a sweater around your neck? Want a Buckhorn Chip?
Am I the only one that just got a subliminal T.P. sound thrust into my head?
Hey, Chipper. I appreciate your opion.
Torgo = Dorko
Chipper = one of the brothers from My Three Sons
Insult - delivered as promised
[…] Defensive end Jared Allen is at Winter Park right now talking to Vikings officials. It’s also believed his agent, Ken Harris, is in the building. That means only one thing: they are talking contract. The latest we’re hearing is that an agreement with the Chiefs is close to being in place and this thing could get done quick. We emphasize the word could, so don’t get too excited yet. Allen is going to want a lot of Zygi Wilf’s money. Safe to say, the NFL’s sack leader from 2007 is going to want more than the Colts gave end Dwight Freeney last July. Freeney’s six-year contract – $72 million over six years with a $30 million signing bonus — made him the highest-paid defensive player in NFL history. Considering the fact a player with Allen’s ability could make this one of the top defenses in the NFL, the guess is that Wilf and Co. will pay the price Access Vikings: » Blog Archive » The latest on Jared Allen This is going to be a story to a close eye on draft day.. This would be a great move for the vikings. jarred Allen Kevin Williams Pat Williams damn that is a kick ass offense line. __________________ Awesome work Pilamengineer […]
wis, here’s what you said on the last blog:
‘If Jared Allen is truly cleaning his life up, I feel bad that there are idiots out there that will use his name and talk crap about a difficult problem he is trying to over come. Why would he want to come play for a team that has fans like that?’
So it’s not ok for fans of the purple to make not-so-nice comments about their players and their off field behavior? WTF?
CJ - I don’t really care what you think.
Chip seems to be a realist. What he said is why I don’t spend a lot of time on this blog.
I agree with whoever said that they should give Jared Allen a contract based heavily on performance. Giving a guy a lot of money just because they’ve had some past success sometimes makes them lazy…
Oops! Again = CJ = s…l…o…w…
wisvike = homer = only speaks positively of his hometown teams
Er, wait. Since he lives in evil WI he really doesn’t have any ‘hometown’ or ‘home state’ teams, can he?
What is he then…..a missionary, spreading the love of MN pro sports teams to the poor saps in WI?
Or maybe a displaced patriot, defending his love of MN teams to the delusional folk in Badgerland?
On the 3-4 vs. 4-3 end thing:
“The responsibility of a 3-4 end is 10 times harder than the responsibility of a 4-3 end,” said Pittsburgh end Kimo von Oelhoffen. “You’re on the edge (in the 4-3). You’ve got great angles for stopping the run, and great angles for rushing the quarterback. That’s why those guys get sacks.”
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?id=1946758
There are several intricacies that define a 3-4 defense but the biggest difference from a personnel standpoint, in teams playing a 3-4, is in the criteria for playing the “defensive end” position. Here is a closer look at exactly what we are talking about:
In the more traditional and popular 4-3 your ends are best suited for lining up in space and rushing the passer on outside the edge of the tackle. Those players usually weight between 260 and 275 pounds. The are athletic and agile and their strength is getting up field with quickness and lean. The ideal 4-3 end also possesses an ability to lean and turn the corner and squeeze the pocket in which the quarterback is standing. Teams are wiling to give up size and strength for speed and edge rushing ability. The perfect fit for this style of defender is Carolina Panther Julius Peppers.
On the other hand a 3-4 defensive end is more like a defensive tackle. He must be strong at the point of attack and is aligned in most cases head up on an offensive tackle and must control runs gaps first and foremost. Size and strength become more of a factor because he plays in confines of line play and seldom is in space using athletic ability. Ideally this guy should weigh 275-290 pounds and be able to beat double teams by getting a push. It’s a more physical task then that of a 4-3 end.
The thinking is that the 3-4 defensive end is easier to identify and find when it comes to scouting and acquiring personnel. Pass rushers like Peppers and the Colts Dwight Freeney are rare and hard to find and therefore very expensive to keep. There is no question that speed pass rushers are very much an impact position on the football field and their cap numbers reflect that. On the other hand, 3-4 defensive ends can be found easier and are much less expensive when it comes to “cap dollars”.
– Randy Mueller
I want to be on a list.
If they’re going to get Jared Allen, they need to get this thing wrapped up ASAP. That gives “the triangle” more time to revise their draft strategy with the picks they have remaining.
You said it, poor saps in WI. That’s you and a lot of others. So unless I live in the state I can’t be a fan? Yep, you’re an idiot. So if you move out of WI you better start cheering for the other states team and ditch the paqueers.
Kato, that is not how it works for players of Allen’s potential. He will want his 35 mil guranteed and if we sign him for like 5 years look for him to get 60 mil
all that money and all of those draft picks for one guy. When this team has so many needs at OL,QB and even maybe DB we also need another S on roster
I know you are, but what am I?
Na na na boo boo!
* tthhhhpppppppt *
Monc - at most we lose one draft pick. The first pick would be used on a DE most likely anyways. I think it is an easy decision. Sign Allen and pay him what he deserves and try to get alot of it on incentives.
CJ - so sad, I use to think you were normal. Good job, you fooled me for a while. Now I am on to you.
At least the guy wants to play on a winning team…and with him at the DE spot for the Vikes, that’s what we’d be next year for sure.
If he was just in it for the money, he’d be off in Oakland or Washington trying to sign.
Hopefully that affords us some leeway when working out contract details with him.
Let’s not forget that we gotta pay Purple Jesus at some point…!
If Allen has been a 3-4 end up until now, think what he could do being freed up by the 4-3. Be very afraid.
The Chiefs have been supposedly in transition between 4-3 and 3-4. But I think Allen’s been playing mainly 4-3 end. So I don’t think there will be much he’ll have to do to adjust.
The Optimists Club is about to get larger. (I know, just what you’d expect an optimist to say. But I was a probationary member for much of last season.)
He will not sign on icentives. He might and the key word is Might be willing to put a drunken rampage claws in the contract.
He believes he is the best DE in the League and wants to be paid like it periode. We are giving potentially two first day picks.
damn, something happens in viking land to make we want to do some blogging, and some a-hole hacks into our network at work and shuts it down…did I miss anything while I was AWOL?
*tthhhppppppppt*
or even incentives
CJ: At the risk of imperiling our rendezvous, I have to admit that I am “a displaced patriot, defending his love of MN teams to the delusional folk in [Soonerland].” Surely you can’t hold that against a guy…
Monc - We’ll see. I think he will. AD did, because he knew he could get most of them. If he thinks he is that good, incentives should be no problem for him to obtain.
Monc, the spelling….Gotta agree wit you.
And I am not comparing AD and Allen, I am simply saying, that if the guy knows he is that good he doesn’t need guarentees up front as a whole, incetives will be just fine.
So is Allen more suited to play as a 3-4 end or a 4-3 end? It sounds like either way, he would be a very good pick up for the Vikes.
He should be willing to agree to a “drunken rampage clause” in his contract if he is confident in himself that he has cleaned up his act, which I believe he is. If he is not agreeable to a special clause in his contract regarding drinking, then that might be an indication to Vikings management that he is not fully confident in his ability to stay clean.
The thing is like no other sport football is a team game.
For instance Tom Brady would have looked like a joke if he played for ST. Louis or Oakland.
All we can do is wait and see what happens IF this deal gets done.
There are no gurantee’s he doesn’t crack under the pressure of a big contract or just not work well into the vikes scheme. All we can do is wait. I’ll quote adam Scefter from last night ” Jared Allen is going to be the ultimate Boom or bust player when this is all said and done”
If it is Boom awsome I am truely excited as many of you are. If it is Bust this sets the franchise back for many years
Kato - I agree, but I am not ready to believe he has cleaned up his act yet. I’ve heard that before. But I am willing to let him prove me wrong.
Wow - it’s amazing how much football can be talked in here when the idiots go away.
Monc - I agree, boom or bust, let’s hope for the best. And I am willing to take that chance. Please get him signed.
Scouts Inc from ESPN.com on Jared Allen:
“Grade 88
Expert’s Take Allen arguably has become Kansas City’s most valuable defender. He’s a high-energy, gifted pass rusher who plays the run as well as he pressures quarterbacks. He probably lacks any elite pass-rushing tool, but he does everything well enough to be consistently dangerous. He plays big and uses his long arms to keep blockers off his body. He rarely gives offensive linemen a solid shot at his frame. He wears out opponents by simply coming at them, continually, with seemingly boundless energy. He goes all-out until the whistle on every play. He excels at locating the level of the ball while warding off blockers. He has a knack for shedding blocks at just the right time to disengage and make the play. He has improved his ability to stack up at the point of attack and can squeeze down blocks to plug up run lanes. Allen has had some well-documented off-field issues, but he is all business on the field. He’ll command as much interest as any free agent in the offseason.”
and he’s not undersized (270 lbs) for an end, he won’t have any problems if there are even any adjustments he would have to make coming here…
Monc - whatever your glass is half empty of, you need to pour yourself one and fill it up!
Let us recap. Today Wisvike compared a defensive end first to a quarterback and now a running back. Can you say s#*t for brains?
Monc: He might BE the best DE in the league (Freeney has 9 sacks over the last two seasons). We aren’t going to get anyone nearly as good at No. 17, at our position of direst need, and losing a No. 2 or 3 doesn’t trouble me nearly as much as letting Allen get away.
And ordinary DEs in free agency are getting paid $6-8 million a year. $10-12 million is a lot of money, but I think, relatively speaking, Allen is worth it.
apples - pay attention, I wasn’t the one comparing the two. Good to see one of the idiots came back. Go away, we are actually enjoying talking football.
…but you’re still here wisvike…
IT’S A JOKE! I had to walk thru that door, you left it wide open…
South, nothing is in peril, any guy that is willing to bring Vapo Rub on a date is my kinda man! Let’s grab a case of Specher and get outta dodge…
well we know Allen can catch the odd TD..question is can he throw them
Until proven otherwise our starting QB looks like he should be starting for the Hamilton Tiger-cats
I will say this for drafting, Monc: If you draft out of the Top 10, like we would be, you can get some bargains, assuming the players pan out. A look at contracts signed by the first rounders in the last two drafts:
http://www.godlovesthegators.com/2008/02/2006-and-2007-nfl-first-round-contract.html
Wouldn’t we be better off to give a 2nd rounder and a later pick for Miami’s Taylor. Good locker room guy and dancer too.
CJ = has “drunken rampage claws”?
Taylor might be done in a year or two, Allen should be around for another 7 years or more.
upnort, the word out of Miami is they will trade him for one second rounder
If Jared could get 15.5 sacks in KC without the Williams just think what he could do here. All the top tier DE’s in this years draft will most likely be gone by the time we pick at 17 and none of them have done a thing in the NFL as of yet….Allen has.
Is this Wisvike dude some kind of retard? Serious question, I am not trying to be funny.
Well looks whos here, it’s your old pal fragile freds!
If only the ice was out on Lake Minnetonkas, I would gladly take Jared Allens out for a boat ride to show him the beauty of Minnesotas shores lines.
Yes taylor has 2-3 years left. So does Big Pat. But we can draft a young guy in round 1 with Taylor at DE. Not saying don’t go after Allen, just don’t throw the farm in with the deal. We may need another year to get all the pieces to make a run at the Super Bowl. We still have some holes, like QB, S, TE, OT.
my friend Doug from California says they should trade for Quinn and not worry about the D. I don’t think I send him a Christmas card this year. Make the deal please….
Taylor will be 34 by the start of the season, eight years older than Allen. He’s still playing at a very high level, but for how much longer?
CJ: I’m right behind you!
How good is Allen? Has he been productive for more than one season? What are his stats telling us, one year wonder or long term great DE like Taylor. I’m asking.
[…] “The latest we’re hearing is that an agreement with the Chiefs is close to being in place and this thing could get done quick,” writes Judd Zulgad. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers also are reportedly interested in Allen. […]
Cause I’m bored.
GET JARED ALLEN NOW!!!!!
If there were a sure fire way to win the Super Bowl every year, some team would be doing it. Even Bill Belichick can’t do it with his well-paid cast of characters and his technologically enhanced cheating.
Lay down the 2008 first round and the 2009 second round, do a history lesson for Jared on how the Vikings deal with players speeding drunk through St. Peter and why Alan Page doesn’t bring on the cringes like Carl Eller does, then fasten your seat belts and man the battle stations. Playing against us will be hell.
It was not safe going to the moon, and playing or watching pro football is not safe either. No guts, no glory. Burn the boats, we’re going ashore.
Wisvike has manure for brains.
Wisvike you’re the biggest dumb FK this blog has EVER seen. Your child molester comments followed by you calling others idiots, the stuff idot legends are made of. You know not of which you speak. Funny how when you got called out about being Cool Club that CC disappeared.
Your borish ignorant jibber jabber is a far cry from anything intelligent. You’ll see LOL LMAO
But the boats are good for parties…
OK Allen’s stats are good. He should be good for a minimum of 8-10 sacks a year next to the Williams boys. If E. James can stay healthy and live up remotely to his expectations, we would have a top tier D-line. I still like Taylor though. Less money for less time for less draft picks and would be able to perform at a high level for 2-3 years.
Purple Reign- I already told him….
KingKC uhda TC says:
April 18th, 2008 at 1:04 pm
Jared- In all fairness I’ll explain a little bit about what it is I do. For instance, if my favorite team signs you to a bunch of money and you go on a drunknen high speed chase thru St. Peter on you way to Mankato. I’ll head on over to Winter Park first thing in the morning and crack your fkn head open in front of all your teammates and by the time I’m getting out of jail, hopefully, you’ll be coming out of your coma…..and you know what? I’ll split your…..
Really? it wasn’t safe going to the moons?
What’s an idot? Keep thinking I was CC, you have seen that I don’t impersonate like you, I am not afraid to say what is on my mind under the name I always use in here. You on the other hand are a coward that can’t say what’s on your mind under your usual name.
It was going good for a while, now the idiots are back.
E. James has done nothing, but get injured. Robison and/or Edwards has done more for this team already.
King, I don’t drive fast I drive drunk. Big difference.
“Jibber jabber”?
Jared Allen = elderly judge from “Boston Legal”?
Purple Reign: I agree. There’s risk in everything. A #1 in 08 and a #2 in 09 or a #1 in 08 and a #3 in 08, both seem like reasonable risks. Yeah the guy could implode or he could be bright enough to see the adverse financial impacts suffered by Pacman Jones and Chris Henry.
For clarification, it’s better to go ashore THEN burn the boats.
You got the point. Did you not?
King - I agree, I gave up on James, three knee surgeries in how many years. Guy is brittle.
BLOG FIGHT!!!
I think my old friend gr8scots is right on this ones. I know my boats and you don’t burn them THEN go ashore… or change it to burn thems, THEN swim to shores.
And you call yourself a fan? Why don’t you just give up on the whole team and cheer for your homestate Packers?
wisvike you’re the biggest pansy asz this blog has ever seen. That’s the only thing you are good at. But like a drunk, you can not see the reality, the truth and most of all for you, the common sense that you lack.
But hey, lucky for you, P.B.V. needs friends too, I guess.
Keep the boats so you don’t have to build new ones.
wisvike: you ask “What’s an idot?” I think it is a Department of Transportation for either Illinois, Indiana, or Iowa. Is that right??? Do I get a prize???
King, We should be able to fill the other end with James, Robison, and Edwards if we get Allen. Scott would be a good insurance policy too, can play tackle as well.
Brian Robinson will have 10 sacks next years
Scott shouldn’t cost much either.
Isn’t Jayme Mitchell still with the team?
No worse than the TWILLY bust. we do it all the time. Taylors old. Save the 2 and draft the WR that “slips”. I dont really see it as a huge risk that will set us WAY back if it does not work. How many in the draft are cant miss? not many. Make it happen.
Why haven’t we signed Scott??? Cheap. He has been productive enough, good for depth. I’ll bet the Pats sign him.
Why haven’t we signed Scott??? Cheap. He has been productive enough, good for depth. I’ll bet the Pats sign him.
gr8scot - thanks for clearing that up. I was really confused. Cool, I am a legend idots are made from.
I guess he’s not good enough to be above the “culture of accountability”. Wasn’t he busted with pot recently?
SIGN him and complete the trade Zygi!!
But no prize?
What about Bryant Mac? Bonehead.
I’d be happy with either Taylor or Allen, but Allen more so. He’s here, now. It’s not even clear Taylor’s available.
P.S.: The “jibber jabber” judge might be this one…
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0066098/
I agree Scott could stay or go but as thin as thing have looked lately at DE it would have seemed obvious to me we would grab him for now.
gr8scot - sorry, your prize is just figuring out what the idiot was talking about.
What about him?
Judd + Kevin + groundbreaking video* = Oscar nod for best sports analysis moving picture
Nice job guys!
I know, I know… CJ = BNHOF
*Refresh the blog and watch our heros hard at work in the War Room lol!
Nice moving pictures, guys!
Although I kinda thought we’d see grainy surveillance video of Allen entering Winter Park with his entourage. As long as it’s not of him leaving Winter Park…
Well, it was good to actually talk some football guys, I’m outta here. See ya monday.
We need a sack producing end. Our secondary gets killed with our lack of a pass rush. QBs have all day unless we blitz and then someone is open anyway. Just get one, Allen - Taylor, just get one. Miles ahead of our current sad DE status.
Wisvike– does it hurt to be stupid?
Amen, upnort.
Wow, a talkie! And in color! Good job, guys.
All I can say is…Zygi better “go to Jared” or else his wife and the rest of Vikings fans won’t be too happy with him.
Bonehead?
Bryant Mac doesn’t fit the culture of accountability was my thought. He is a Bonehead at times and I think an over paid and over rated LT.
If we get Allen it could be the start of a good season. Later all.
Geez: If I could figure or gigure out what half the people around here were talking about, my wife would probably have me committed.
the dolphins would be silly to trade jason taylor. he is still better than any defensive end available in this years draft. he’s also the cornerstone of that franchise. he has played his entire career in miami and trading him would be a terrible pr move. they already dumped zach thomas this season…and sam madison the previous season. not saying that i don’t want him to play for us….
King, I’m not calling you or anyone here a Bonehead. Just Mount Mac. our big offensive tackle.
We’ll see how Chili deals with McKinnie when the courts are done sorting everything out. People with money can afford the best defense. Justice? Ha!
I think King is a bonehead.
Not saying you were. Just trying to get a response.
…and I could care less what you think.
Later for sure this time.
….oh, so tempting…but I will refrain.
I don’t want my blogging priviledges revoked by K & J & MW…
if they don’t release bryant mckinnie…chili is a hypocrite and all credibility should be lost with him throughout the organization. we released koren robinson for a dui and allegedly evading police. dwight smith was released i think for personal reasons related to his conduct. bryant mckinnie is facing felony assault along with a couple other charges. there is no comparison at all on these particular situations.
explain how matt birk can call out randy moss for his antics, but yet i haven’t read a single article on him calling out bryant mckinnie. maybe birk is a punk ass biatch and knows bryant would beat that ass…..i could be wrong be these are just my opinions.
This article makes it sound like the Chiefs would get two first rounders if another team signs Allen.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d807d1f6e&template=with-video&confirm=true
Figures, we finally get a pass rusher who can actually get to the QB and Favre retires.
Maybe McKinnie gets found not guilty?
We didn’t get him yet…
Everyone who wants to trade for Allen needs to remember the Walker trade and how it set our franchise back a decade. Do you all want to see the Chiefs win a couple of SBs thanks to the additional picks they have from us, which will likely be high ones? He is not worth two first round picks.
dre, I completely agree with you. Not sure on Birk either, but one has to wonder why he’s so quiet re: McKinnie.
Could be he’s just sick and tired of the whole organization, so why bother speaking out?
If another team signs him to an offer sheet and KC decides not to match the offer and Allen leaves, then KC would get two first rounders. This would not be the case because KC is trading him.
If the Vikes do get Allen and send their first rounder to KC, KFAN’s draft party is going to suck.
[…] The Minnesota Sta Tribune reports that Jared Allen was in Minnesota today “talking to Vikings officials.” The report goes on to note that […]
I do remember the Walker trade and it’s not the same. Not even close. We need a DE who can make an immediate impact NOW.
Have a nice weekend everyone!
wisvike says:
April 18th, 2008 at 1:46 pm
Monc - We’ll see. I think he will. AD did, because he knew he could get most of them. If he thinks he is that good, incentives should be no problem for him to obtain.
Since this is the NFL and not the NBA, contracts are not guaranteed. Ergo, if you’re injured, it’s difficult to make those incentives, so only an idot would make the majority of their contract incentive based. Durrrrrr …
Speaking of apples to oranges: There’s no comparing the king’s ransom we gave up for Herschel Walker (3 firsts, 3 seconds, a third, a sixth, three starters and a couple other players — minus the 2 thirds, a fifth and a tenth we got back) with the two picks we’d give up for Allen, even if they are both first rounders, which seems unlikely.
RTG and South come back in swinging!
South, STFU you homer.
Jared the Great city of Eden Prairie welcomes you with open arms, this pristine city is filled with pro athletes alike. And people wont badger you when they see you around town, unlike other cities (Chaska, Burnsvile, Lakevile)
Thank god Justin Smith went to SF first.
You know, KC might take a 1st, 3rd & one of our 6ths for him…
… as long as we don’t have to give up a 5th. The alcohol stays here …
RTG LOL
Its worth it we have two thrid rounders so essentially were just giving up the 17th pick and having a normal draft starting in round 2. BIG upgrade from Philip Merling LOL
… Burnsvile? Lakevile? You know, I had never thought of them that way, but now that you mention it …
Wow Daunte…you figured that out all on your own???
Daunte = brilliant!
Apples: Nothing “homer” about my analysis of your weak-azz comparison, an analysis you do nothing to refute. There’s also nothing “homer” about saying the Herschel Walker trade was a disaster for the Vikings, which I think we agree it was.
Given your name, one would think you’d be more careful about ill-informed analogies. Guess not.
Torgo = Dorko
It’s official. Allen is a VIking!!!
$75m - WOW
The Walker trade built the Cowboys dynasty of the 90’s…
VikingJ, you gorgot to mention there is a new blog…
VikingJ = slipping
Must … not … click J’s link…
*click*
Arrgh!!
Darn you, J! Darn you to heck!
Jared Allen can come to minnesota under one condition. He wears #69
Bucky = knows better!!!
No clicky here!
I’m quite proud of myself - I didn’t click.
You’re a better man than I , Bucky Scribner.
(Just don’t tell CJ.)
Afternoon Bucky!
Can’t believe how much bickering there is in here today. Just to keep it going, “Eff all of yoose!”
2MT!!! Sup brotha 
viking j=the little boy who cried wolf……”really dad there is a snake under my bed this time!! i proimise!!” “son, shut the hell up and get ya ass in the bed!”
the next morning the little boy was as swollen as a watermelon…..
A to O……there is no comparison between the two trades. The Walker deal involved several players and a LOT more picks. I will always choose the known quantity over the potential bust. Remember, Walker had great seasons for the Eagles after he left…..we didn’t run the right formation for his running style.
FU2, Jet! Welcome!
By the way, jersey no. 69 is currently available. If we can pass that bit of intel on to Winter Park, that might clinch the deal:
Just biding my time….
Afternoon folks…WOW!!!!! Jared Allen will get it done……can’t believe the triangle has MORE balls than..than.. Oh hell I don’t know, but like the fact they are DOING SOMETHING!!!!! This is great news to come home to from the hospital on….really the last 24 hours been scary fer me…..
Being hospitalized is no excuse for not blogging.
Hope all is well now, iEver.
Master Torgo = Master Dorko
It’s official. Allen is a VIking!!!
$75m - WOW
It sounds like the trade is this year’s 1st and 2nd. Both Pat Kirwan and Alex somthingorother on Sirius NFL said the Vikes should take that deal. Especially with the Williams Bros. Geez - it’s almost as if they’ve been peeking in here…
I hadn’t read this before - PFT says Allen owns a bar. Very smart guy…
J: In the immortal words of President Bush, “Fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can’t get fooled again.”
for now Vikings South…had 3 stents placed and a 4th coming next Thursday…frickin cholesterol!!!!! ;-(
Great News about Allen!!!! Whooooo Hoooo.. (I gotta calm down now…Whoooo Hooo….)
Torgo = Dorko
4Ever - AV blog MVP and comeback blogger of the week!!
4Ever - seriously, get better, man.
I hear you, Ever. I had high cholesterol when I lived in Wisconsin. Too much sausage, cheese and frozen custard.
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Attention: People who somehow manage to call themselves “legislators” in St. Paul should wake up and smell the coffee. Chasing multimillion-dollar enterprises out of the state of Minnesota is a very good way to start a depression. You can claim you did not see the bent gusset plates on the bridge, but this warning sign is printed in the papers for any fool to read. Open your eyes. You are not holding Zyg hostage. He is only here because he wants to help us. Do you??? Note that Roski said the 2011 season. Get a clue.
VikingJ…you little fuker….I just about popped my cath tube plug you little fuk!!…..sheeshhhh got excited all fer nuttin.. ;-(
Gotta get outta here!
See ya’ll ya bunch of idjits!
Thanks VikingJ….and to top it all of next week I get a job interview over da phone with the VA Hospital in Wichita. Man this stress of getting ready to move & find a job is gonna kill me!!!
Torgo = Dorko
4Ever = Mrs. VikingJ says the same thing every nite.
J: Try a new link next time. It showed up purple cuz I had already clicked it the first time you posted it.
“Keep your cath tube in” = new catchphrase sweeping the nation.
Blog you later, all.
dre 3;56, thats the story of the boy who cried snake, not wolf.
anybody have a belt
cheeseweasel are you some kind of special ed student?
LOL…..Don’t make me laugh it hurts!!! LOL…. (good one VikingJ)
never said i was smart a-hole….
u wanna know who sux at blogging? cheeseweasel.
I will say Im not fat “These pants dont fit” sounds like you are…
what do you call brett farve’s best friend? cheeseweasel
Viking J = needs to work on his Blog math
*yawn…*
VikingJ is a Packer’s Fan!
cheeseweasel = idiot who loves Favre
[…] And: As of 3:50 p.m., Allen remains inside Winter Park. How do we know this? Well, a very big limousine is sitting in the parking lot of the Vikings facility. The Vikings also had limos wait outside when they were negotiating with free agents Bernard Berrian and Madieu Williams. […]
L8TR guys…gonna lay down….hopefully when I log back on…Jared Allen will be a VIKIKNG!!!!
Why do we always get close to signing these DE’s but never do. I hate this team for never getting who we should get, but I think if we get Allen we have a good chance at making the superbowl.
That there made me laugh… I’m a vikings fan, fool.
If we get Allen, is this our best Defensive Line ever?
A Viking even…
God no Daunte…
Al Noga, Henry Thomas, Kieth Millard and Chris Doleman was better than this would be…
I won’t even mention them in a class with the PP eaters
I know they were great, but what if this one WINs us a superbowl
THEN you can start comparing them….Allen has to become a Viking first…and that may not happen. I HOPE IT DOES THOUGH….
sounds good to me, I think if he dosent, or even if he does, we should try and get Jason Taylor too. that WOULD be an Awsome D-Line. Probably the best in the league
Bucky,
Your right, that was a great line, but this one can stuff the run.
Hey Judd, while you’re at Winter Park, how about siphoning the gas out of that limo so J.A. can’t leave? Sounds like a plan to me…
Not to burst anybodys bubble BUT even if we sign Allen we still have TJoke and Chilli…..
FIRE CHILDRESS NOW !!!!!!!!!
Maybe VQ could do a drive by and shoot out the tires on the limo too….
FIRE CHILDRESS NOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kirwan and Alex Whathisname at Sirius agreed that if the Vikes get Allen, they could go deep into the playoffs. And that’s with Jumpin’ Jax.
Jumpin’ Jax = FBK?
Thanks Buster for getting us all depressed again.
TJoke = FDK
D= Drive
JET- where the hell are those gerbils??
FIRE CHILDRESS NOW !!!!!!!!!
Brown Noser
FIRE CHILDRESS NOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hey Bucky……how about old #79 Doug Martin in place of Al Noga?
When I see Allen, I think more John Randle than Doleman; more of a pure motor guy. Doleman was speed kills…..
Buster - if you didn’t go thru them so fast, you’d be OK. Until this shipment arrives, maybe you could run out back and grab a couple gophers.
FDK?
Word is that Jared Allen is going to take a physical for the Vikings tonight or tomorrow. This should be great news for Vikings fans, as it’s beginning to look very likely that Minnesota will pull the trigger on a deal for him. I really believe that it’s doubtful that the Vikings allow Allen to leave without a new deal and a trade agreement in place.
BUSTER=not Gopher fan
BUSTER=’Yote fan
BTW that above post of mine came from MVN.
Where’s that news coming from 4Ever??
NFL NETWORK JUST REPORTED THAT ALLEN AND THE VIKES ARE NOWHERE NEAR A DEAL!
Looks like Jar-Al (superman?) will be signed. Now, what to do with McKinnie. He is a big piece of the puzzle and hard to replace.
I think McKinnie and Allen have both learned their lessons and will be good boys. Of course the millions and millions of dollars they are getting helps. But it ain’t coming out of our accounts, so who cares?
IF you watch the rerun later tonight its about 5 to 10 minutes into total access when they switch to Mary strong after she is done blabbing about yesterdays news about McNair (hasbeen like Farve) they go on to talk about the Allen trade for a full 20 seconds or so
i guess it looks like he won’t be signed.
Oh and Kenny on an earlier post you mentioned Buster is a Yote fan
His favorite team is Alaska ST, home of jumping jack dipsh*t
Brother Jet, you and wisvike twins?
FDK= FKNG DRIVE KILLER
TJoke = FDK
FIRE CHILDRESS NOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hey Monc… could we pick some other state to make fun of? We’d be really good at football… if we had grass that is….
Alaska State has put out some very mobile QB’s… like this guy: http://www.ktva.com/ci_8964167
I would love to go to Alaska..nothing funny there
for those of you that have the NFL network they are also interviewing AP tonight
Well, let me know when… you’ll have an igloo to crash in. Alaska: The Land of 10,000 Minnesotans.
So the interview and the Jared Allen blurb are both on NFL ACCESS, is that right? Worth DVRing I guess.
The 2008 first pick, 2008 second pick plus $ 30 million signing bonus? Sorry, that deal doesn’t make any sense.
ESPN is reporting the deal is done. Just finalizing with KC.
Buster - you’ll need to apologize for that one.
One thing we know, JA and his agent are currently at Winter Park, and If they weren’t working on something he’d be gone to TB.
Have some faith KR, it’ll go.
Allen will be a Viking before weekend is over…
Total Access was basing their info on the KC press confrence. Carl Peterson is playing it cool.
The interesting thing about this deal is that it has a very “Do or Die” feel to it. With Spielman getting an extension, Frazier getting a promotion, and Chili getting a vote of confidence from Zygi… I’m surprised they are considering such a deal.
With that being said, I’m not surprised in a bad way necessarilly. I think Allen is a great player who will improve this teams chances immensily. He’s only 26, so if we can get a 6 or 7 year deal out of him then a first and second doesn’t sound all that bad.
Also, I’ve been a little concerned about the facts that the Vikes do not seem to be preparing for an uncapped year next year, so I kind of like this move. The Vikings can sign Allen (or anyone else) right now during a trade for a heck of a lot cheaper than if he were to hit the free market next year in an uncapped year.
As far as the picks go. General history would show you that we only end up getting one good player out of both those picks anyways. Allen is consistent baller, with pro bowl abilities. He makes us a force in 2008, no doubt, but the question is whether it is worth it.
With high priced, quality vets, like Birk, Sharper, Sasser, McKinnie, Winfield, C. Taylor, and Pat Williams all having cloudy futures… I like this move… especially if the picks are for 2009.
Lost - if it gets us where we need to be and Zygi’s on board with the dough, it makes a lot of sense. Now, I suspect we will package some of our picks to get back into the 2nd round of the draft.
I like Fargo’s style
I give you my own personal guarantee that I’ll be wearing a purple allen jersey made in china come Sept 8.
I heard Allen’s dad, Ron Allen, played for Vikings. Anybody remember? Having a hard time finding anything. Found this:
Ron, like his son, took a long time to get his act together. He spent his sophomore year of high school in juvenile detention for stealing a car. He found football and later played at Jamestown College. Though talented, Ron didn’t make it to the NFL. He stuck for two seasons with the USFL as a running back and tried out for the Chiefs and Vikings but came up short.
I also like the deal because I feel if JA is a Vikings, it will somehow soften the heart of Buster and some of his friends.
D wins championships, who needs the best o in the league
Any updated news? Is Allen still in town?
Yo what’s up AK?
[…] Minnesota is looking to bolster the position and improve the pass rush, but in the meantime, there’s some great news on Udeze: … Udeze announced today he is in remission from acute leukemia and also said his older brother is a perfect match for a bone marrow transplant, outstanding news for a player who has been suffering from the disease since the beginning of February. […]
[…] The latest on Jared AllenDefensive end Jared Allen is at Winter Park right now talking to Vikings officials. It’s also believed his agent, Ken Harris, is in the building. That means only one thing: they are talking contract. The latest we’re hearing is that an …Access Vikings: - http://ww3.startribune.com/vikingsblog […]
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