Allen on Vikings’ radar; Udeze to appear at benefit
April 17th, 2008 – 12:07 PM by Judd ZulgadThe Vikings search for a pass-rushing defensive end could land them Kansas City’s Jared Allen. An NFL source confirmed to the Star Tribune that the Vikings are holding trade talks to obtain Allen, who led the NFL with 15.5 sacks in 2007
Allen told Foxsports.com that he is flying to Minnesota this weekend to visit with the Vikings. Allen also said the Tampa Bay Buccaneers are in the mix. The Chiefs placed the franchise tag on Allen in February, meaning Allen would stand to make almost $9 million in 2008 (the average of the five highest-paid defensive ends in the NFL).
That might be more than the rebuilding Chiefs (4-12 in 2007) want to invest in a player. Acquiring Allen would be a huge boost for a Vikings team that lacks depth at the end positions and was unable to land Justin Smith, Antwan Odom or Jevon Kearse in free agency. The Vikings have not had a defensive end with 10 or more sacks since the 2004 season and the team leaders (Ray Edwards, Kenechi Udeze and Ben Leber) each had five last season.
UPDATE: Chiefs President Carl Peterson issued a statement confirming the Chiefs have held “preliminary” trade talks for Allen with a “few” teams. The full text of Peterson’s statement:
We will confirm that we have been in conversation with a few teams regarding the possibility of acquiring Jared Allen’s contractual rights. Any potential agreement would be contingent on the Chiefs receiving appropriate compensation and Jared’s representative reaching a contract agreement.
Jared is not an exclusive franchise player. Therefore, based on the terms of the Collective Bargaining Agreement, he has the right to visit and negotiate with other teams. However, for any trade to be completed, the Chiefs would need to reach an agreement on compensation. At this point, all of these discussions are preliminary.
Udeze, the Vikings’ starting left end, won’t play in 2008 after being diagnosed with a form of leukemia this offseason. Erasmus James, a first-round pick in 2005, is question mark after battling knee injuries the past two seasons.
“It’s a situation that works out best for both sides,” Allen told the Fox website. “I can go to a team that is competing for a championship right now. The Chiefs can get valuable draft picks to rebuild with.”
The question becomes how much would the Vikings be willing to give up in a trade and how much would they want to pay Allen? There is no doubt the Chiefs will ask for Minnesota’s first-round pick in this month’s draft — the Vikings are set to select No. 17 overall. It’s been assumed the Vikings would target a defensive end in the draft such as Florida’s Derrick Harvey with that selection.
Update: ESPN is reporting the Vikings are considering offering their first- and second-round picks in 2009.
Allen has had off-the-field issues; he was suspended the first two games because of multiple drunken driving convictions. Allen said in a February interview that he has quit drinking.
Vikings officials declined to comment on the Allen situation.
– Udeze, who hasn’t spoken publicly since being diagnosed with leukemia in February, will discuss the need for bone marrow donors at Winter Park on Friday. The Vikings are playing host to metro-area soccer teams for what is being called the “Great American Soccer Marrowthon.” The 24 hours of soccer, which will feature local teams, will help support the Twin Cities-based National Marrow Donor Program.
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Dream on.
Thanks Judd.
Judd, Thanks!!!!!
BNHOF
… make sure he gets an extra helping of muskrat love hotdish. He’s sure to want to be here, then.
I will come to Minnesota for 72 million $, a lifetime supply of Buckhorn and a date with Viking Queen.
I will come to Minnesota for 72 million $, a lifetime supply of Buckhorn and a date with Viking Queen.
I will come to Minnesota for 72 million $, a lifetime supply of Buckhorn and a date with Viking Queen.
I will come to Minnesota for 72 million $, a lifetime supply of Buckhorn and a date with Viking Queen.
I will come to Minnesota for 72 million $, a lifetime supply of Buckhorn and a date with Viking Queen.
I will come to Minnesota for 72 million $, a lifetime supply of Buckhorn and a date with Viking Queen.
I will come to Minnesota for 72 million $, a lifetime supply of Buckhorn and a date with Viking Queen.
I will come to Minnesota for 72 million $, a lifetime supply of Buckhorn and a date with Viking Queen.
I will come to Minnesota for 72 million $, a lifetime supply of Buckhorn and a date with Viking Queen.
I will come to Minnesota for 72 million $, a lifetime supply of Buckhorn and a date with Viking Queen.
I will come to Minnesota for 72 million $, a lifetime supply of Buckhorn and a date with Viking Queen.
You’re welcome, Judd.
Look at the Allen situation from this perspective…
Odds are, Derek Harvey (the guy the Vikes were rumored to be pursuing), very likely won’t make it to #17 since there are plenty of teams above us looking for DE’s. So, most likely we’d have to package one of our 3rds with the 1st and move up if we wanted to get him. We still have a player that has never played a down in the NFL and may end up a first rate flop. Whereas for a 1st and 3rd (or something similar), we could trade for Jared Allen, who is still young (4yrs in the league), and has proven himself to be one of the best pass rushers in the league. I’d say the choice is pretty easy.
I have a stuttering issue, that’s why I can not play quarterback.
T-Hop talks like he’s got a mouth full of sh!t, that hasn’t stopped him from trying to play QB (notice I said “trying”)
Fargo, You want to be my agent? All the Buckhorn you can swallow.
Rate the following beers from least skanky to most skanky:
Buckhorn
Pfeiffer’s
Miller High Life
Stroh’s
Natural Ice
Coor’s Light
Hi. I have been watching for a while and gigured I would give this a shot. Trade for Jarred Alan would be a good idea. Please post more updates on your families and what you had for lunch.
GOSG = flaxton
Finally……..I suggested this as my first choice. Let’s pull the trigger and get it DONE.
There is only one beer worth swallowing that would be Buckhorn, Schlitz would be a close 2nd.
sure JA, my commission is 10% of whatever your salary ends up being…
as long as you promise not to go driving after you’ve been hitting the buckhorn. Get yourself a limo and a driver or a friggin Cab, ok?
I agree.
SIGN JARED ALLEN NOW!!!!!!!
Blue Bull?
More…
ALLEN HEADING OUT OF KANSAS CITY?
Posted by Mike Florio on April 17, 2008, 12:52 p.m.
During the offseason, Jay Glazer of FOXSports has roughly the same profile as Punxsutawney Phil.
But when Glazer emerges from hibernation, he comes with something more than a hairy ass and tail.
Glazer reports that the Kansas City Chiefs are expected to trade defensive end Jared Allen before the draft. The two suitors are the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and the Minnesota Vikings.
Allen, who bears the franchise tag, tells Glazer that he’ll visit with the Vikings this weekend in Minnesota, and that he plans to meet with the Bucs next week.
“It’s a situation that works out best for both sides,” Allen told Glazer. “I can go to a team that is competing for a championship right now. The Chiefs can get valuable draft picks to rebuild with.”
The deal will be driven by two things — compensation to the Chiefs, and a new deal for Allen. As to the former, the Chiefs surely will want at least a first-round pick. They probably will want even more, such as a third-rounder. Minnesota holds the No. 17 overall pick in round one, and Tampa has the No. 20 selection.
As to the latter, Allen might want the same six-year, $72 million package paid last year to Dwight Freeney by the Colts. The deal included $30 million in guaranteed money.
The Vikings know what Allen can do. He returned from a two-game suspension to face Minnesota in Week Three of the 2007 season, and Allen arguably was the reason the Chiefs won the game.
Speaking of suspensions, that’s the one issue that could hold down the trade package and/or the contract. Allen has had two DUI arrests in less than a year, and even though he has been clean the risk of a relapse will always be present.
The only potential glitch here is that G.M. Carl Peterson is known to drive a hard bargain. But the ceiling on the demands is two first-round draft picks, since any team could snag Allen, if they’re willing to ship two first-rounders to K.C.
OK, since you seem like nice folks I’ll let you in on a lil secret. This whole Allen to the Vikes thing is a Smoke screen. As your coach is really looking to, under the radar, as he put it. trade your 1st & 3rd round picks for Tyler Thigpen.
Didn’t he lose a bunch of weight?
I agree with Fargo - no brainer on Allen.
A proven franchise player over a rookie with unknown NFL capabilities for the same price? Where’s Yolanda?…..
Maybe the Vikes can find a way to get the massive human swinging gate into the deal. The Chiefs need an LT and maybe “all the information” doesn’t travel any faster to KC than it does to Winter Park. If they do this deal, they’d better get an agreement on Allen’s contract done first - not something you want to do in the 10 minutes you’re “on-the-clock”.
BTW One would hope that with the amount of money that he gets, Allen would have a better taste in beer than any of the ones mentioned.
Jared will look good in front of those purple seats in LA. I’m putting the house up for sale now to avoid the big rush. Those wind turbines in the southwest will spin backwards from all the traffic. Last one out of Minnesota please turn out the lights.
Who you calling a no brainer? Do I need to kick your ass?
Fargo - You are hired, but since I will make you a rich man you have to be my driver too. You don’t get 10% of my date with Viking Queen though.
Vikes are not going anywhere. Each idiot owner pulls this crap and ends up selling the team. No different than zigmidet.
Chilli Lover, I’m not keen on gay guys. Telling me I’ll be looking good, keep your distance pal.
… sure, trade one proven partier for another. It’s the same risk, so why not?
Which one of us is the one that gets to hope?
I wanna be first….
gr8 - you questioning MY BEER? How much longer do you wanna live?
I don’t like the idea of trading a 1st and 3rd round draft pick for much of anyone. Keep the picks, build a team that way. It works. Big free agent signings more often than not don’t pan out. And then we are stuck without current and/or future draft picks to boot…
If I get this deal done, Bryant and I are going out and rip up the town. Look out Minny.
OK, keep the picks and then kick yourself in the head next year when you are looking at a lame DE + a non-starter and thinking we could have had a Pro Bowl DE for these two guys?!
He did just fine in KC……and they don’t have the Williams Wall.
OK, Bones - enough. You’re attracting imitators. You should be pleased with the Penguin 1st round.
But anything beyond a 2008 1st rounder for Jared Allen should be 2009 second day and conditional on sixteen starts.
I say offer a 1st and a 4th or 5th first, but be willing to go up to a 1st and 3rd. We have the advantage as it is vs TB (17th vs. 20th pick).
MOP of the Day Update:
5 responses thus far (taking Queen’s 9-0 for granted and Monc’s 1-8 response from yesterday, plus J’s 9-0, Jet’s 5-4, and my 6-3) we have an average of 6 Ws and 3 Ls, and thereby a 10-6 regular season record overall.
Any other replies?
I saw that KC game last year in person…..JA couldn’t be stopped. Just imagine what this disruptive force could do for the Williams boys. I would rather have a proven entity than take a chance on Merling or Harvey panning out.
McKinnie has to be a contingent factor. One big ass salary for another.
Order your #69 Vikings jersey now. It’s a keeper, no matter what. P.S.: In KC they’re saying Jared will never leave, owner’s just pull this crap all the time. Isn’t that right, Art Modell???
Buc don’t even need a Def End. They’ve got Gaines Adams and signed Marques Douglas at LDE.
They were looking for DT’s to replace Hovan and Ryan Sims and doubt they’re parting with much more than their 1st pick
What exactly did you say you’d come to Minnesota for Jared??
KC needs help in more areas than one. I could see them wanting extra picks.
Let’s not gorget, Jared Allen has played in a 3-4 defense since being drafted….
Reggie White worked out pretty good fer GB. Not apples to apples but you get the point. We’ll still have a 3rd rounder to use. Keep the 2nd round pick and get the WR that slips.
Big ass? Who? Me?
Damn blog, shoulda worn a different skirt today…
Okay…check out this highlight reel of Jared Allen, pretty impressive…
http://www.zachishere.com/2008/04/07/jared-allen-highlight-video/
You wearing a tiny little skirt today CJ?!?!?! 
According to John Clayton its #17 and a conditional 2nd next year.
‘the Bucs are reluctant to include more than a first-round pick for Allen. The Bucs have offered their first-round pick and a fifth-round pick next year, and their proposed deal could also include defensive lineman Jovan Haye, Smith reported.
Meanwhile Minnesota is considering offering its first-round pick and a second-round pick in 2009′
I think the tag line is what got me.
If THAT is the case, our first this year and a second rounder NEXT year, then hell yes, trade for Allen….
Opinions??
Would KC accept a third round in 2008. The 2nd round in 2009 - even if conditional - should be in the # 50 to # 60 range. That represents full value for Allen.
KC wants picks the Vikes have. OK to packaging a bunch of picks but no deal if it comes to #17 and a 2nd round
Talk of a 1st this year and a 2nd next makes me wonder if the Vikes still think they could get Rosenfels with a 3rd this year. If I weren’t so lazy I’d do a time value analysis of the draft trade chart to determine if a 2nd next year is worth more or less than a 3rd this year.
A lot of that depends on where we end up this season, although regardless of the non-humble opions of others and the abilities of Gus Fornot, the Vikes are done with the vet QB’s for the season.
They will draft a QB, but they are satisfied with who is in house now. (not my opion - just stating what it is)
Mud,
NFL draft theory’s been a choice in this year’s round is equivalent to one in earlier round in following year. Depends on direction of a team as Giant draft pick next year will probably not be last.
Most teams optimistic that next year’s pick to be lower than this year’s. the 49er and Raider both made this mistake
Enough about me, tell me something about yourselves.
A little clarification to my last post - where we end up in the draft order…..
Case in point is Cleveland last year trading with Dallas in order to move up and get Brady Quinn. Jerry Jones thought he was getting a top 5 or 10 pick when Cleveland mortgaged their 08 first rounder.
Little did he know……
Inferno, would it be more correct to say the Vike ‘accept’ the QB situation rather than anybody being ’satisfied’
Texan are still without a 2nd pick and Rosenfels situation may not be resolved.
Lots of time left before training camp
I am back baby, so deal with it. If you have a problem you can kiss this:
Let me break this trade down into one sylabel words that you sixth graders can understand. This is a mistake. The Vikings will likely have a top five pick in 2009 and now it will go to the Chiefs. Then you will all suffer and complain and I will LMAO.
If Ranger beat the Islander do Penguin play them next Bones?
I didn’t know the SB winner got a top 5 pick. Did we make a trade with somebody and would have been moving up next year? lol
Where are you Blaster?
Greenpeanus, you amaze me with your stupidity.
You are easily amazed
Greenpeanus, are you back from jail? Congratulations! My advise is to stay away from dead animals. Try to get well.
Sorry lost viking I is two dumb to know the answer.
Dr Sig is busy today…
Make the damn trade! Vikes aren’t going after Sage anymore since they signed Gus.
What is a sylabel?
Who won the AV fantasy football league last year?
I think Jet is demanding. Just sayin’…
I think I is better than everyone.
I doubt we’ll land him because the price is too high. However, with our luck, if we do trade for him, he’ll get nabbed for DUI before training camp and end up suspended.
Character issues were supposed to scare Childress, but considering McKinnie’s recent escapdes, and the lack of response, perhaps not.
I love to go shopping with the girls.
my wife told me that she wants me to take her somewhere expensive tonight…..so i’m takin her ass to the gas station…..
LOL @ dre!
Who is blaster?
ANybody have a cold Buckhorn for ol Jared?
Well, now they’re saying that the Herschel Walker multiple personality disorder is just a crock. Apparently, the diagnosis was that Herschel is just immature and attention-seeking.
The correct question is, ‘where did all the money go’ or ‘now that he’s taken to writing books which one of his personalities can he get to read them’
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Any of you girls know where I can get a cute shell top for summer?
Who you calling a girl? You punk ass.
Vikes 1st & 2nd in 2009 for Allen? Ouch!
1st in 08 2nd in 09
ALLEN:
Relentless young pass rusher enters his fourth season with the Chiefs … Broke into the starting lineup at right defensive end as a rookie in 2004 and has only solidified that starting role over the past two campaigns … Was selected to the USA Today All-Joe Team in both 2006 and 2004, serving as a part of a squad that annually recognizes the league’s top blue-collar performers … Originally joined Kansas City as an under-publicized fourth-round selection (126th overall) out of Division I-AA Idaho State in the 2004 NFL Draft … With 27.5 sacks in his first three seasons has now earned a well-deserved reputation for wreaking havoc in opposing backfields … Those 27.5 sacks are already tied for ninth on the Chiefs all-time chart, needing just 2.5 more to become the eighth player in franchise annals to hit the 30.0-sack plateau … Racked up 20.0 sacks in his initial two campaigns with Kansas City, a total topped only by LB Derrick Thomas, who totaled 30.0 sacks in his first two seasons with the club in ‘89-90 … Owns tremendous natural instincts for the game and approaches each play with a tenacious attitude … Lanky sack artist possesses great flexibility and an uncanny ability to bend his frame when coming off the edge … Can also use his speed to chase down ball carriers from behind or utilize his strength and athleticism to gain leverage on his foes … Seemingly always finds a way to get to the football … Recovered six fumbles in 2006, a mark that led the NFL a year ago and tied a Chiefs single-season record … Racked up seven forced fumbles in 2005, the second-highest seasonal total in Chiefs history behind Thomas (eight in ‘92) … His all-around game should only improve as he continues to work under the experienced eye of defensive line coach Tim Krumrie … Is also a talented long snapper and handled those duties for an injured TE Kendall Gammon in the second half at Houston (11/20/05)
Hi King, remember me? I’ve missed you especially.
1st in ‘08 (#17), choice of Ray Edwards DE or Brian Robison DE, and conditional 4th in ‘09
J - If you are around, make sure you check your mail today. Nice gift from the Vikings.
Lost - we are short at DE why in the hell would you give one up?
Bones- Can’t say that I do.
First pick in 08, our second pick in the 3rd and maybe our second pick in the sixth 6th.
A #1 in 08 and a #2 in 09 sounds very reasonable, especially when the 08 #1 would likely be a guy with a “fixed??” hernia
No way Lost. Have to keep Robison and Edwards for depth. Besides, they might be the 2 best DE’s that are on the squad right now….
1st in 08 and 3rd in 09 is plenty.
Greenpeanus got slapped and left….yes.
Me and Wisvike hang out together all the time.
Favre’s jersey to be retired before opener
The Green Bay Packers announced today they will retire Brett Favre’s No. 4 at the team’s season opener against the Minnesota Vikings on Sept. 8.
“The season-opening game is always an exciting event, and now we’re very pleased to add the retirement of Brett’s No. 4 to that evening,” Packers President/CEO Mark Murphy said in a release. “It will make for an electric atmosphere at Lambeau Field, as well as a great opportunity for our fans around the country to share in it while watching the game on the national broadcast.”
That ceremony might just make me sick.
Looks like I won’t be turning the game on until kick off. No pregame show for me.
what does busta rythem say?
Are we watching the game at your house or mine wisviek?
Torgo = Dorko
News just in.
Allen is now ours
YIPPEE
espn.com/nfl
If the offer of next year’s picks is true, it actually makes sense. I agree with what Disco was saying. In theory with the additions we’ve made and getting Allen, we should have a better record this coming season, which would make the draft picks that we give up next season lower. Also, it would still give us the #17 this year to get an OT (Otah, Williams). Then the rest of the draft, its BPA…
nice try J…
I hear that before the game, they’ll let Brett throw the coin toss as well…which will be then be promptly intercepted by Darren Sharper…
pregame ceremony - BF will be accompanied by Chmura at the local junior high,.
TORGO = DORKO
pregame ceremony - BF will be accompanied by Chmura at the local junior high,.
Also, keeping our 2nd rounder this season puts us in a position to nab either Brohm or Flacco as QB of the future…
Trade for Allen is a no-brainer, assuming Zygi will pony up the cash (and I hope he will). Allen is a proven stud as a pass rushing end, and that’s exactly what we need. All the rookies are just that, rookies, and still need to prove themselves in the NFL game. Draft picks are never a sure thing, and barring any injury, Jared Allen would be the sure thing to shore up our pass rush (and subsequently help out our DBs). I’d offer whatever we can that is better than Tampa Bay to get this guy.
[…] Jared Allen in Purple? The Chiefs’ Jared Allen, who is a restricted free agent, told Foxsports.com that he is flying to Minnesota and will visit with the Vikings this weekend. Kansas City has held trade talks with the Vikings and Tampa Bay, according to the … credit : http://ww3.startribune.com/vikingsblog/?p=1513 […]
Pass the Courvosier?
Anyone know how much we’re under the cap as of now? Allen won’t come cheap.
I read that the Chiefs want picks in this years draft.
Have I mentioned that I am Torgo and that I take care of the place while the Master is away?
Never…….boot-licker.
Let’s get the deal done. Given our luck drafting DE’s, it would be a much better idea to trade for a proven commodity. Allen’s got 43 career sacks in four seasons, and he only turned 26 this month.
What havoc could this guy wreak lined up with the Williams brothers? Good Jeff! If this goes through, I’m revising my picks for the season…
Welcome back, Bones!
I don’t want to burden Allen with all of this team’s woes, but he looked pretty good lined up as a tight end on this play (3:59 mark)…
http://www.zachishere.com/2008/04/07/jared-allen-highlight-video/
McNair’s done:
VS = FBK 
We are 18 m under cap and allen probably wont take more that 9m against the cap
I think I read 18m on here recently
The Master only pays me 30 cents an hour.
Keep the draft picks. Allen’s great, but this team has such a long way to go it isn’t worth it. Suspect QB, below average WRs (includes Berrian), terrible TE, suspect line (McKinnie, big baby Birk at Center). Build through the draft - the Vikes aren’t just around the corner for a Super Bowl birth. If they were 10-6 and won a playoff game last year, then they would be close to doing something like this. This move is like a year too early.
Keep the draft picks. Allen’s great, but this team has such a long way to go it isn’t worth it. Suspect QB, below average WRs (includes Berrian), terrible TE, suspect line (McKinnie, big baby Birk at Center). Build through the draft - the Vikes aren’t just around the corner for a Super Bowl birth. If they were 10-6 and won a playoff game last year, then they would be close to doing something like this. This move is like a year too early.
Keep the draft picks. Allen’s great, but this team has such a long way to go it isn’t worth it. Suspect QB, below average WRs (includes Berrian), terrible TE, suspect line (McKinnie, big baby Birk at Center). Build through the draft - the Vikes aren’t just around the corner for a Super Bowl birth. If they were 10-6 and won a playoff game last year, then they would be close to doing something like this. This move is like a year too early.
Just remember that Allen wouldn’t face the purple in 08, so his sacks would be down. (Number of sacks…not a sagging sack.)
If I imagine the Vikes at the Packers on week 1 with J. Allen at DE, I have so much more confidence that our D would eat Rogers up. Jared Allen can come in right away and rip it up playing beside the Williams’.
we have to admit that a 1st and 3rd for a 4th year stud DE is better than a 2nd for an old J. Taylor.
It looks like we are currently $14.8 million under the cap:
http://archive.profootballtalk.com/2008capfigures.htm
Let’s face it, Zeke: the draft is a crap shoot. We might get somebody good with those two picks, or we might not. Or we could get an All-Pro at a position of great need with lots of miles left on his tires. To me, it’s a no-brainer.
so should or shouldn’t we Take A RIsk
Anybody have ESPN Insider? Apparently they have an analysis (sounds like they think it’s a good idea)…
I will support whatever the “triangle of authority” elects to do….
Crap shoot it is, Vikings South, but ask the NYG how the draft helped them last year. There is one team in one year that did well. There are others. But, it’s a young man’s game, and when you have lots of holes to fill, keep drafting. Giants had a young QB who came into his own, 3 young stud RBs, young WRs to go with Plex; they didn’t miss a beat at TE when Shockey went down and Boss came in; 5 or 6 D-linement who rotated in, depleted CBs, but young players stepped in there, as well. It takes more than one stud DE. Still say the Vikes need way more players than they have right now to give away high draft picks just for J Allen, even though they saw first hand how dominate he can be last year.
zeke or torgo or whoever you are. If the Vikes give up TWO draft picks for ONE player (JA) they only lose ONE player .. Not a big deal to get the LEADING SACKER in the NFL last year. Moron.
Torgo = Dorko
Get Jared Allen and get him now.
Introduce JAllen to Carl Eller. Moose can then show him the TwinCities hotspots.
Torgo = Dorko
Get Jared Allen and get him now.
Introduce JAllen to Carl Eller. Moose can then show him the TwinCities hotspots.
Here is where we see if Zigi is worth his words.
This is a proven DE, our biggest need and we have the resources to make this happen.
Will he pull the trigger and get the guy?
Think of that line, Pat, Kevin, and Jared. Great defensive lines win games.
Come on Wilf, make this happen!!!!!!!!!!
So the two players they give up is not a risk…
Maybe the only risk is that he is not reshaped by the culture of accountability, does something stupid again, and gets a big suspension.
Can’t they pay someone like 100K a year to make sure that doesn’t happen?
Remember, you can replace most 2nd-, 3rd-, 4th-, etc. rounders in free agency without that much difficulty if you have the cap space. So, it is not like you are giving up a second player that you could never replace.
I want to hire Viking Queen as my babtsitter, if she signs with me then I’ll be in Minny. And yes I’ll pay her that $100K per year. Plus tips!
i don”t think consciences have bank accounts
Also, he is coming here first to meet with the cap guru. If anyone can get a working contract it is us.
He ain’t leaving here. Basically, we got him. You heard it here first!
How much more money would I be making than whatever unproven punk ass college person you would draft at #17 in the 1st round anyway? Probably not a whole lot, in NFL dollars that is.
#1 this year and a #3 this year or a #2 next. If they don’t budge, give them all three. Wouldn’t you want a All-Pro DE? Look at his stats. His worst year was better than any of our best for the last 4 years:
Yr TCKL SOLO ASST SCK
04 31 29 2 9.0
05 58 51 7 11.0
06 76 64 12 7.5
07 65 56 9 15.5
TTL 230 200 30 43.0
getting exactly what we need without having to hope a rookie pans out? Pretty cut and dried on the decision there.
The Pukers might not want to retire Favre’s jersey if we sign Allen, he just may destroy Rodgers the first game…
Just remember too, we have Bryzenski (sp?) working his cap magic, they’ll find a way to get him signed…
I’m out. Keep thinking positive thoughts, purple people (even you pessimists).
I also averaged 22 cans of Buckhorn per game too. That’s after the game in most circumstances. Did I ever tell you that Carl Eller is my idol?
I think that’s pretty obvious…
JA, man your kiling me.
The only sticking point will be how much of a hardass KC will be on picks
That’s a good point about Allen not really being that much more of an investment than 2 high draft picks. (Relatively speaking…)
It’s time to grab the NFC by the balls…and crush…
(BTW, did we trade coaches and QB’s in this deal?)
Seifert is going on KFAN soon…we’ll see if he has any info and is holding out on us.
Has anyone else noticed that the Vikings are getting FA in their 4th year?
Allen, Williams, Berrian, Tapeh
Testing?
Cool, it works.
So are we looking at the fastest “retire-unretire jersey” after J-All crushes A-Rog in the first half of the season?
One hundred cans of Buckhorn on the wall one hundred cans of Buckhorn on the wall take one done I’ll chug till it’s gone 99 cans of buckhorn on the wall……
Can anyone answer the question:
“What is Kevin and Pat’s contracts, in respect to total years, signing bonus, per-year payments, and where they are in progress.”
Are the two pro-bowlers going to be dwarfed by a $70 million contract with a $30 million signing bonus by a 4-year guy?
What if the Vikings make a 7 years, $65 million contract with a $32 million signing bonus to Allen?
How will that play with the Williams’ brothers?????
Will they see it as a great part of their goal of going to the SB? (see Steelers, Cowboys, Vikings, Rams, Bears, etc.)
Or will they see that as a “dis” on them?
I’ll buy them lunch at Subway if they feel underpaid…I’m sure Phat wil eat about 15-20 subs & KWill about a dozen, but I can write it off under entertainment expense just like I do my Buckhorns.
Phat Pat got his last contract. I can’t see him complaining.
Kevin doesn’t seem to be like a jerk, either. I’d think that he’d be pretty happy to have an attention-grabber next to him. He’s smart enough to know that is only going to help him.
please, don’t let him leave
If they still whine I’ll just beat the sh!t out of them.
Just use your mallet…wait, that’s a mullet.
Kevin - What? Are you on Zygi’s stadium payroll?
LMAO AT TAR’S 5:06 pm post!!!!!
dre - glad to hear someone else besides me got some entertainment from that thought.
It’s just going to be so funny when it is all BF and the Vikes come out and crush them. All Chili needs to do is show them the Harris hit on Adrian when preparing for this game.
Week 1 is going to be a massacre.
Let’s all agree that if I am wrong, the 0-5 Chili is fired.
Sound like a fair bet?
TAR, that was a dirty hit, whether the players acknowledged it or not.
Question. Draft picks are being thrown out for Allen, but what about players? I like Allen and would like to see hime play for the Vikes, but he has some league problems with his 2 DUI’s. Next offense could mean a couple of suspensions, so there is a risk. There’s a player that the Vikes have that also has some league problems and plays a position that KC needs, LT McKinnie. Maybe a 3rd round pick involved also, maybe not. What’s the possibilities of this happening?
3 picks and a player is a lot for one guy. all we got was a 1st rounder a 7th rounder and napolean harris for moss. when the niners traded TO to the eagles, they only got a 3rd rounder for him…..
kc needs o line, but they need picks worse. They are after our picks.
I’m not talking three players. Player for Player and maybe one 3rd round pick.
Sorry if that came across wrong.
THE VIKINGS NEED TO MAKE THIS WORK. IF IT TAKES A FIRST THIS YEAR AND MAYBE A SECOND ROUNDER NEXT YEAR THAN SO BE IT. GO VIKES!!!
VKSTWS,
I would agree that if kc would take a player and a 3rd, we would be laughing into the playoffs. Just don’t think it’s enough for the best de in the nfl
Good point, dre. Most NFL trades do not involvement an overpayment for a star.
OK, I am talking post-psycho trades…
I’M WITH VIKING HAWK,
it all of the sudden feels like the first day of free agency . Sign Allen already so I can relax
Relax…Kevin is predicting this could go right up until the draft.
i’m all for bringing in allen. one thing we don’t need to do is bone ourselves in the pooper in the process. remember all those draft picks the rams gave up to acquire aneas williams in 2000? how well did that work out for them?? they reached the bowl only to get dumped by brady and the pats.
Vi King,
I agree with Allen being talented, but would KC get a better LT with a first round draft pick at #17?
vkstws: nope…..then again we really don’t know yet…
Agreed, dre.
2 players, even starters, for an all-pro defensive end is worth it.
We have this draft value chart for trades. How about a chart that evaluates how many starters/players an all-pro is worth?
dre,
You are correct. That’s what makes it fun. You never know what is going to happen. Allen could slip on a fast food bag tomorrow and break his arm at McD’s…. oh never mind, that’s to far fetched…
If kc cant get a better de than mckinnie at 17 than we’re screwed too. If the vikes trade mckinnie and hold onto their 17th overall, what position do you think we’d be drafting. Maybe we’re no further ahead.
The Vikes have been searching for a DE for a long time, we have a chance to get Allen and I like that Idea. If not then maybe start looking at trading up to get Chris Long.
espn says vikes offering 1st and 2nd in 2009, we can still draft another de this also, or a great corner back. do the deal pay allen more more then he wants and he’ll force kc to trade hime to the vikes
FLASHERVIKE IM ON THE SAME PAGE AS YOU. THIS NEEDS TO HAPPEN I WANT TO SEE SOME QBS GET THROWN DOWN BY MINNY THIS YEAR! WE WOULD BE A RUN KILLER IF THIS PANS OUT. GET HIM,GET HIM,GET HIM! NOW THAT IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE A BETTER SECONDARY THEY WONT HAVE ANY CHOICE BUT TO PASS 90% OF THE TIME.
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